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Plane

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piracy again
« on: May 07, 2010, 06:51:05 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_re_eu/eu_piracy


The pirates boarded the tanker Moscow University on Wednesday. They were arrested Thursday after special forces from a Russian warship stormed the tanker. A gunbattle ensued in which one pirate was killed; 10 others were arrested.

The warship opened with warning fire from large-caliber machine guns and a 30mm artillery complex, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Special forces troops then rappelled down to the tanker from a helicopter, Rear Adm. Jan Thornqvist, the European Union Naval Force commander, told an Associated Press reporter aboard the Swedish warship Carlskrona, which was patrolling 500 miles (800 kilometers) west of the rescue site.

The tanker's 23 crew members, who had taken refuge in a safe room, were not injured.

Mikhail Voitenko, editor of the Russian online Marine Bulletin, said the release strained credulity and instead sparked suspicion the pirates had all been killed

"There is no more stupid version than the one that has been proposed to us — that there was no sense in dealing with the pirates and that in Russia there are no suitable laws for convicting them," he wrote.

"If the pirates really were let go, it should have been done in the presence of journalists. If the pirates were killed, a heroic version would have to be thought up," Voitenko said.


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Re: piracy again
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 07:09:26 PM »
It is hard to feel sorry for pirates. If the Russians off them all, it would not be a major loss. To make a living as a pirate should require something beyond just climbing aboard an unarmed ship.
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Re: piracy again
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 07:15:41 PM »
It is hard to feel sorry for pirates. If the Russians off them all, it would not be a major loss. To make a living as a pirate should require something beyond just climbing aboard an unarmed ship.
  Good point .


Why are these ships still unarmed?

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 12:53:32 AM »
I think most are armed, but in a minimul capacity.
it looks bad if a cruise ship got a paying passenger shot.

guess the more weapons on board to higher risk of accidents.


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Re: piracy again
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 09:43:20 AM »
I think most are armed, but in a minimul capacity.
it looks bad if a cruise ship got a paying passenger shot.

guess the more weapons on board to higher risk of accidents.



How does that compare with the risk of being captured by pirates?

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 10:28:01 AM »
Pirates are poorly prepared to deal with warships , they would probly loose four of five battles with armed crews.

But when the cargos of these ships are ransomed for millions , the captains and crews are ransomed for milllions and the sips themselves are ransomed for millions , these piracy attacks are not going to stop.

There are big bosses now who have the resorces they acheived from successfull ship captures , they can recruit and equip young pirates for next to nothing and one capture would pay for twenty failures.



http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/07/world/la-fg-ship-freed-20100507

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100506/158896498.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Moscow_University

http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/m/moscowuniversity/university.htm

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=15101972&PageNum=0


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udaloy_class_destroyer






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Re: piracy again
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 10:47:08 AM »
I got no idea if more guns would endanger crews on non-military ships or not.
but that`s the situation as it stands now.

I`ve learned the hardway what seems like common sense to a outside observer can dangerously be wrong.