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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Xavier_Onassis on January 31, 2012, 11:55:57 PM
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Romney defeated the Newtster with a 15 point lead.
I hope Gingrich stays in, because he is needed to badmouth the Mittster so the Democrats won't have to.
The commercials here were riotously stupid and slanderous, but still sort of true.
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That sure doesn't bode well for Obama. Sorry, Xo
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Conversely the non Romney candidates garnered 53.6% of the vote. Ir ain't over until it's over.
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Romney is the poster child for the idle rich 1%.
He has no plan to create jobs. Corporate vulturehood is not the solution.
It will be amusing to see him go down in smoke & flames.
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Romney is the poster child for the idle rich 1%.
Can't wait to see how the GOP dismantles that tactic, as Obama is also part of that "idle rich 1%", as is Pelosi, as are so many other Democrats that Obama is going to call on, to do his hypocrtical smearing attempts
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Pelosi did not dismember companies and bankrupt them to get rich like Romney, and she does not argue that the rich should get tax breaks for being "job providers" even though history has shown that they do NOT create jobs.
Pelosi is not running for president, either.
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What tax breaks are the rich getting? They already pay more than any other quintile.
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Pelosi did not dismember companies and bankrupt them to get rich like Romney
what a crock!
so if a company is in trouble
and you liquidate the fat
take actions that must be taken
and make it profitable again
thats to be demonized?
better to face reality
than the lame ass prop-up of a dying failing company with tax dollars
Obama encourages & props of bad business decisions with other people's money
which is immoral
if Bain Capital is so "evil" why did Obama just
appoint a Bain Capital guy as head of OMB?
You're class warfare is gonna be a big loser in the Fall.
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Vulture capitalists do not normally buy failing companies. They buy propsperous companies, with money in their accounts. They buy the company, loot the treasury, sell the facilities to a leasing corporation and turn the company into a renter rather than an owner.
I hardly think that the fact that someone once worked for Bain was the reason they hired him.
I fail to see why most voters would favor a fatcat idle rich guy like Romney. They will never become capitalists. It makes as much sense for the average American to elect this guy o9t any damn Republican as it would for a chicken to vote for Colonel Sanders.
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"Vulture capitalists do not normally buy failing companies. They buy propsperous companies,
with money in their accounts. They buy the company, loot the treasury,
sell the facilities to a leasing corporation and turn the company into a renter rather than an owner."
Can you provide multiple examples with sources where Romney did all this you described?
I hardly think that the fact that someone once worked for Bain was the reason they hired him.
So it's ok to demonize Romney over Bain, but ok if your name is Obama to appoint guys to run the OMB
that worked in mgt at Bain supposedly being "vultures"?
I fail to see why most voters would favor a fatcat idle rich guy like Romney. They will never become capitalists.
It makes as much sense for the average American to elect this guy o9t any damn Republican as it would for a chicken
to vote for Colonel Sanders.
I fail to see why Americans would favor a community organizer that never held a
real job or had any executive experience in his life. Hopefully they've learned it
doesnt pay to hire someone to run the country thats never run anything in his life.
Facts dont lie!
It's obvious it's time for someone that has executive experience & has actually run something.
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Facts to a hard core cool-aide drinking Obama supporter is like Kryptonite to superman. Notice the inability to respond to the direct question on What tax breaks are the rich getting? Renders them to the point where all they can do to respond is call their opponents all kinds of names...greedy, vultures, fatcats, racists, and that oh so dreaded word....."rich"
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Everyone KNOWS what tax breaks the rich are getting.
A low rate on capital gains of 15% even for hedge fund managers commissions.
A break of 4% on the top rate that was removed by Juniorbush.
Obama, of course, has three years experience and will have four at being president. Romney has none. Beinng a governor is hardly the same. Running a vulture capitalist liquidation scheme is not at all the same.
All economists agree that this sort of recession requires more than four years to recover from. It will take even longer Romney is elected, because he has no plan. Other than "let them foreclose".
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Everyone KNOWS what tax breaks the rich are getting.
No, they don't. Please share for the class and those that don't
A low rate on capital gains of 15% even for hedge fund managers commissions.
AFTER the 30+% those $$'s were taxed to begin with, when it was 1st income
A break of 4% on the top rate that was removed by Juniorbush.
Which still makes "the rich" paying FAR more in both amounts and %'s. News Flash....its' just a fraction of that 1% that live purely off their dividends. The rest of that 1% still pay HIGHER income taxes than anyone else
Obama, of course, has three years experience and will have four at being president. Romney has none. Beinng a governor is hardly the same. Running a vulture capitalist liquidation scheme is not at all the same.
Prior to his Presidency, he had zero experience as an executive, zero experience as a President, and zero experience running any business, much less a country. And being a governor is precisely the type of executive experience that any President would embrace. What experience did Clinton have again?? Carter?? The best presidents tend to be governors, while the worst tend to be legislators.......especially senators
And please demonstrate that Romney's SOP was functioning as a Vulture Liquidation Capitalist. Leftist rhetoric might work on the ignorant, but facts will actually rule the election
All economists agree that this sort of recession requires more than four years to recover from. It will take even longer Romney is elected, because he has no plan. Other than "let them foreclose".
No, not "all". And many of those economists will also tell you Obama's policies will prolong such a recovery FAR longer than 4 years, than if the Government didn't do anything.
Romney and the GOP DO have a plan. Contrary to the garbage the left keeps tryiong to push, they've ALWAYS had a plan. Kinda hard to impliment anything with a President and congress that won't allow any of their plans to ever see the light of day
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A plan that never sees the light of day!
So THAT'S it! How clever!
Nixon only said he had a secret plan to leave Vietnam (peace with honor, he called it), and it was soooooo secret we still do not know what it was.
Now we have a double secret plan. Like Niedermeyer in the "Revenge of the Nerds" film.
That was double secret probation, but it was the same concept.
The Republicans don't have sh!t. They prefer high unemployment. The less for the majority of have-nots, the more for the glorious haves at the top.
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I plan that never sees the light of day!
So THAT'S it! How clever!
I've lost track of how many bills (PLANS) the House has passed that continue to gather cobwebs on Reid's senate desk. It's not "clever" nor "secret", its FACT
The Republicans don't have sh!t.
I'll take theirs over what the Dems are trying to cover us with, in a heartbeat. One that will actually make a dent in both our debt and unemployment, that MIGHT pull of out of this Obamabyss that's going to be thrown onto our children, and their children's children.
I realize you don't care, since you'll be long since dead, like me, but apparently I, and many others, come Nov, actually do, and will make the necessary decisions to reverse this Greece-like course Obama & the Dems are taking us down
And nice non-answer on those apparently secret "tax breaks", that only you seem to be privvy to, but can't seem to share with the rest of us
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They still do not have doodly-squat. They could not find their bungholes with both hands.
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They have FAR more than the Dems, who apparently are so scared shirtless of the potential benefits of the GOP plans, won't even allow Democrat senators to vote them down, in a simple yea/nea vote
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So, are all these glorious Republican plans on double-secret probation?
If they exist, they are certainly not saying much about them. I suspect that all or most include still MORE tax breaks for the filthy rich and cuts for programs needed by the poor and middle class.
But they are SECRET, so we will never know, will we?
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So, are all these glorious Republican plans on double-secret probation?
No....they're on clear public record, having been passed by the House of Representatives, now sitting on Senator Reid's Desk, gathering dust
If they exist, they are certainly not saying much about them.
Ignorance doesn't fit you well. They've been non-stop talking about them
I suspect that all or most include still MORE tax breaks for the filthy rich and cuts for programs needed by the poor and middle class.
LOL....yea the same secret "tax breaks" that apparently only you are privvy to. So then LET THE SENATE VOTE THEM DOWN, IF THAT'S ALL THEY ARE, AS YOU "SUSPECT"
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They've been non-stop talking about them
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Who?
They have been yammering about their existence, not their substance.
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They've been non-stop talking about them
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Who?
Republicans and their pundits, across the spectrum
They have been yammering about their existence, not their substance.
bzzzz.......wrong. But at least now we've got you conceded of their existance, vs some "secret" non-plan. I guess that's a start
But as I said, if you're so convinced at how horrible they are, at how they give more of these uber-secret tax breaks, that only you seem to be privvy to, why the hell, would a Demaocrat majority not have the cahones to put these plans to a vote, and vote them down??
Most logical concept is that they are Scared shirtless that they may actually improve our current Obamabyss, and we sure as hell can't be having that, in an election year. *gasp* Republican plans actually pulling this country out of its Obama facilitated Greece-like death spiral?? Perish the thought
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The Republican plans are clueless. They want to lower taxes for the super rich, when we have seen that lower taxes simply result in more debt and no jobs.
The Republicans have been more obstructionist than any Congress in history. This is merely payback.
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Who wants capitol gains taxes to be high?
Not me, I might be a retireee some day.
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If you are getting Social Security, it will make little difference.
Why tax money you have to work to earn at over double the rate of money that you don't?
If they have a higher rate for people earning over $75000 annually, that would solve the problem for retirees.
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The Republican plans are clueless. They want to lower taxes for the super rich, when we have seen that lower taxes simply result in more debt and no jobs.
Putting aside how wrong you are on the so-called reason of debt and unemployment, then let the Senate Dems vote it down, if its supposedly so horrible and gives your evil rich folks all these super secret tax breaks
The Republicans have been more obstructionist than any Congress in history. This is merely payback.
Wrong on so many levels, but nice to see now you're now conceding that the Democrats are the ones obstructing anything now. I guess that's progress
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If they have a higher rate for people earning over $75000 annually, that would solve the problem for retirees.
Enough with the different rates for different people. If a tax is justified it should apply to all equally.
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I disagree with that.
If the economic system rewarded all equal effort equally, that might make sense.
It does not, and there is no reason to expect that it ever will. So, no, this is a bad idea.
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As we are continually shown, "fairness" to the left, isn't fairness at all. Its been mutated to mean, whatever the hell they want it to mean