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Title: TV Tropes
Post by: Plane on May 14, 2012, 03:31:36 PM

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheUnfettered (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheUnfettered)



Large site devoted to how storys are written.

Philosophy is discussed , of course.

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Plane on May 14, 2012, 03:36:39 PM

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalAsian (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalAsian)


I think it significant that there is a Magical Negro,Magical Asain and Magical Native American listed, but therfe is not a Magical White guy on this list.


Eureka, White is the default guy.
Default guy has no special wisdom.

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Plane on May 14, 2012, 03:47:55 PM

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CloserToEarth (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CloserToEarth)


Ah -HA!

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Plane on May 14, 2012, 04:38:16 PM

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ViewersAreMorons (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ViewersAreMorons)


I am pleased with this site.

I somethimes think on how do people write and how do people think.

What plots were rejected for "Gunsmoke" or "Gilligans Island"?

TV nowadays can exist on the nitches where fewer viewers watch, so is there a programming really intended for the thoughtfull?

Is that possible?

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 14, 2012, 05:22:01 PM

Houdini could be the magical White guy, or perhaps the Magical Jew, depending on how you regard him. The various legends of Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed, Pecos Bill and others are magical in their own way.

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Plane on May 14, 2012, 06:18:36 PM

Paul Bunyun is pretty close, ppperhaps Pecos Pete too.

But
Troupes is about how people write storys, things you see a lot of in storys especially TV or comics.

Can you think of a truly modern or current or recent or contemporary version?



http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment)

Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 15, 2012, 12:39:20 AM

TV nowadays can exist on the nitches where fewer viewers watch, so is there a programming really intended for the thoughtfull?

Is that possible?

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Yes and no.

PBS's American Experience, Frontline, Nova and other documentaries are clearly TV for the thoughtful. Lots of BBC shows are certainly thoughtful. Ken Burn's Civil War and American Indian documentaries were really great.


Network TV is still as it always has been, designed to lure the viewer to watch the commercials. If it is too thoughtful, viewers will discuss the show during the commercials and not watch them at all.

Years ago, some company decided to sponsor a first rate special of Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men, with commercials only after the first and second acts. The show got great reviews. But when they polled the viewers, almost no one could even name the sponsor. That was the last time they tried really serious drama on commercial TV.
Really good TV makes the commercials unmemorable. Perhaps people should be more grateful and buy the products for that reason, but it does not seem to work that way.

People buy crap when the name of the crap is firmly lodged in their heads via silly slogans and ditties.