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GRAMMY AWARDS
Grammys make nice with Dixie Chicks
Texas trio takes five awards, Peppers grab four and Blige bags three.
By Geoff Boucher, Times Staff Writer, The Envelope
February 12, 2007
The Dixie Chicks are Nashville refugees for reasons of politics and personality — after stinging comments about President Bush, country radio banned them and country fans shunned them — but on Sunday the trio found blue-state redemption at the 49th annual Grammy Awards with five awards, including song, record and album of the year.
Intense R&B singer Mary J. Blige and the rock veterans of the Red Hot Chili Peppers were among the other notable winners, but by the end, the show belonged to the Chicks, who became the first act in 13 years to sweep all three prestigious categories.
The avalanche of honors at Staples Center in Los Angeles came just three months after the Chicks and their defiant album "Taking the Long Way" were snubbed at the Country Music Assn. Awards, creating a divide that turned into something resembling a pop-culture election night.
"I think people are using their freedom of speech tonight with all these awards," said Natalie Maines, the lead singer of the Texas-bred band and a firebrand figure for much of America.
It was Maines who in 2003, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, told a London concert crowd: "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas." That led to radio bans, CD burnings, death threats and the Nashville career collapse for a group that had been among country music's most bankable acts.
Maines, a lifelong Texan, moved to an L.A. beach house and her music partners, sisters Emily Robison and Martie Maguire, joined her in California to record "Taking the Long Way" with rock producer Rick Rubin and rock session musicians.
There was also "Shut Up and Sing," a documentary film that gave the back-stage story of the public furor, enraging critics even more. The group, which began as a bluegrass outfit, had surrendered much of its musical identity, but songs such as "Lubbock or Leave It" signaled that the musicians were not in ideological retreat.
Maines joked Sunday night that Middle America might not be happy with the Chicks romp, which came from the votes of the Recording Academy, which is centered in the industry hubs of Los Angeles and New York.
"A lot of people just turned their TVs off right now," the newly dark-haired Maines said with a laugh. "I'm very sorry about that."
The first single from their album, "Not Ready to Make Nice," won record of the year, which honors the best overall recording, and song of the year, a songwriter's award, which they shared with their collaborator Dan Wilson, formerly of the band Semisonic.
The Chicks ran the table Sunday — they won all five categories in which they were nominated.
Folk singer Joan Baez introduced them as "three brave women" and also asked the audience to "please listen closely" to their performance of "Not Ready to Make Nice," which the trio performed on a small pedestal stage at the center of the venue.
Norah Jones, in 2003, was the last act to win three of the four marquee awards. This year, the only top award the Chicks did not take home was the one they were not eligible for — best new artist, which went to Carrie Underwood, the country singer whose career was minted by "American Idol," Fox's popular talent show.
"I love country music first of all," said the 23-year-old native of Muskogee, Okla. "There are so many people to thank. I'm going to start at the top: Thank you God, thank you mom and dad, thank you Simon Fuller, who created the show 'American Idol' that got me here. I owe everything to Simon Fuller...."
Last year, "American Idol" was head-to-head with the Grammys and thumped the awards show in ratings. This year, acknowledging the new physics of musical stardom, the Grammys added a talent-show component to their broadcast. A 19-year-old Texas unknown named Robyn Troup sang a duet with Justin Timberlake and got an ovation just as loud as the singers who went home to mansions.
Rick Rubin was named producer of the year (non-classical) for his work during the eligibility period with the Peppers, Dixie Chicks, Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond. He also contributed a song to the Timberlake album, giving him a credit on three CDs in the best album category.
The 43-year-old, who was a co-founder of the rap-pioneering Def Jam Records, came into the evening with five previous nominations in the prestigious category but had never taken a trophy home.
The show's gramophone trophies celebrated music that was released between October 2005 and the end of last September, but some of the most memorable moments of the gala honored music of the past.
The broadcast on CBS opened with the reunited Police performing their first hit, the torchy tango "Roxanne" (the band, which broke up in the mid-1980s, will announce a major tour today with a club performance and news conference in West Hollywood), and there was also a tribute to the late James Brown that included Christina Aguilera performing a forlorn version of "It's a Man's Man's Man's World," the 1966 song Brown wrote with Betty Newsome.
If the Chicks were celebrated for overcoming public travails, Blige and the Peppers took home awards that were especially poignant given the struggles in their personal lives.
Blige, whose performances are often riveting and wrenching, was choking back tears as she spoke on stage — "There was a time in my life I couldn't love myself enough to love anyone else," she said. Her three awards in R&B categories add to the success of her album "Breakthrough," the most uplifting music for an artist who has weathered drug abuse, physical abuse and despair.
The Peppers picked up four Grammys and had the final performance, a magical hometown moment for a longtime Los Angeles band that has dealt in the past with overdoses, defections and critical apathy.
They scored the first No. 1 album of their career and some of their best reviews ever last year with "Stadium Arcadium."
For the music industry elite who gathered for "the biggest night in music," the gala was just as much about escapism as it was exultation.
The recent headlines have been disconcerting even in an industry growing accustomed to bad news: Tower Records shuttered their stores, layoffs are underway at Virgin and Capitol Records and, most distressing of all, last month the best-selling album in the country managed only to sell an anemic 60,000 copies during a week in stores.
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Yankee Chicks?
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Too bad they appear to be vindicated. It was still treason.
Then again, the Grammy audience is more liberal than those who used to listen to the Dixie Chicks.
So, I guess this doesn't surprise me, after all.
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Yankee Chicks?
I bet the best part is that they no longer need sing in a smokey room filled with drunken redneck shitkickers any more.
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Too bad they appear to be vindicated. It was still treason.
Then again, the Grammy audience is more liberal than those who used to listen to the Dixie Chicks.
So, I guess this doesn't surprise me, after all.
Criticising a Pres is treason now? It wasnt that way when Bill was in power. Outing a CIA agent seems more treasonous to me. The Grammy audience represents America a lot more than shitkicking redneck assholes do.
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The Grammy audience represents America a lot more than shitkicking redneck assholes do.
It's a real sad day when people like you "represent America."
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It's a real sad day when people like you "represent America."
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Did Mucho say he represented America? I don't see where he said that.
The shitkicking redneck assholes who made death threats against the Dixie Chicks for simply speaking their mind to a British audience that agreed with them are best described as "shitkicking rednect assholes". Said asholes were dead wrong to support Juniorbush in this senseless and unwinnable mess in Iraq, and the Dixie Chicks were right.
It's a free country.They had a right to say what they thought, and so does everyone else.
Juniorbush is not the commander in chief of anyone but the military. To most of us he's just the incompetent sockpuppet that we are cursed to have in the WH for another couple of years.
Opposing him is far from treason: it's downright patriotic.
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The Dixie Chicks can blather about what they want. Come to think of it so can te redneck assholes.
Odds are the chicks are incorporated, and as such are always looking at the bottom line. Notice they made their remarks about Bush just as they were launcing a US tour. Notice they reignited the controversy just as they released a new album.
Money for nothing and MTV.
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Notice they made their remarks about Bush just as they were launcing a US tour. Notice they reignited the controversy just as they released a new album.
Money for nothing and MTV.
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The Chicks are aware, more than most, of the wisdom behind the saying "If God sends you lemons, make lemonade."
There is a difference between stating that the war in Iraq is insane and they are ashamed of its instigator, and threatening to kill them for saying this, as the redneck shitkickers did.
There is no way the redneck shitkickers will, or even could benefit from their negativity. That is the difference.
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Notice they made their remarks about Bush just as they were launcing a US tour. Notice they reignited the controversy just as they released a new album.
Money for nothing and MTV.
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The Chicks are aware, more than most, of the wisdom behind the saying "If God sends you lemons, make lemonade."
There is a difference between stating that the war in Iraq is insane and they are ashamed of its instigator, and threatening to kill them for saying this, as the redneck shitkickers did.
There is no way the redneck shitkickers will, or even could benefit from their negativity. That is the difference.
How many death threats are we talking about?
Most of us just quietly started ignoring them.
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There is no way the redneck shitkickers will, or even could benefit from their negativity. That is the difference.
So the rednecks were more pure in their opinions, no ulterior motives behind the scenes.
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There is no way the redneck shitkickers will, or even could benefit from their negativity. That is the difference.
So the rednecks were more pure in their opinions, no ulterior motives behind the scenes.
The retarded such as the rednecks that boycotted the Chicks couldnt have " motives behind the scene." They are, after all, retarded , you know.
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The retarded such as the rednecks ....
Then they have a disability and are members of a protected class. Your disrespect for them could be construed as hate speech.
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The Chicks are not played by the vast majority of country music stations, but are now being played by rock stations.
I'm glad for them. Whether one supported the war or not, they didn't deserve the treatment they received. The ladies have talent and at the end of the day that is what matters in the business.
I drove home from work the other day and listened to a country song about a woman who had a cheating lover. She decided to key her name into his 4 x 4, cut his tires, and take her Louisville slugger to his windows, while he danced with his mistress.
I wonder, what does that teach young women? (though I applaud the use of traditional ash over aluminum in bat choice)
Yet, censoring a much better musically talented band (and it is honestly difficult to argue that they aren't, even if you dislike what Natalie said) is acceptable.
I'm glad for them.
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The retarded such as the rednecks ....
Then they have a disability and are members of a protected class. Your disrespect for them could be construed as hate speech.
I do not hate them . I feel sorry for them like I do for all the duped RW idiots that still worship the Bushidiot.
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Lots of idea polarization here. They are free to say what they want as I am free to present opinions as to their views, sometimes that represents itselfe via the wallet, other times via the spoken, or in this case the WRITTEN, word.
I did not like Bill Clinrton's positions on many issues yet I did not advocate his impeachment as others here have or made the crass comments I hear here. If a Republican-leaning entertainer would have gone overeas to a foreign audience during wartime acitvities duirng the Clinton Adminsitration, made comments as they did, I would have said the same, namely that treason was now present.
It is the state of wat that determines the difference. Now, would I have them flogged, etc., OF COUSE NOT. They are private citizens. But, it was , in my opinion, still a treasonous act. I would not have done this, even during the Clinton Administration; I expect them to behave themselves by this standard, namely my own.
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Disagreeing with the president or any other politician is not treason. Treason would be revealing secret battle plans or providing weapons to the enemy.
Treason is a serious crime. The Dixie Chicks committed no crime, one of them just suggested that as a Texan, she was ashamed of Juniorbush. That is not treason by any possible definition.
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Lots of idea polarization here. They are free to say what they want as I am free to present opinions as to their views, sometimes that represents itselfe via the wallet, other times via the spoken, or in this case the WRITTEN, word.
I did not like Bill Clinrton's positions on many issues yet I did not advocate his impeachment as others here have or made the crass comments I hear here. If a Republican-leaning entertainer would have gone overeas to a foreign audience during wartime acitvities duirng the Clinton Adminsitration, made comments as they did, I would have said the same, namely that treason was now present.
It is the state of wat that determines the difference. Now, would I have them flogged, etc., OF COUSE NOT. They are private citizens. But, it was , in my opinion, still a treasonous act. I would not have done this, even during the Clinton Administration; I expect them to behave themselves by this standard, namely my own.
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Criticizing an American Pres , whether at home or abroad , isnt treason. In fact it is one of the most American things anyone can do. I didnt think the criticism of Clinton was treason , only fucking stupid. Your standards are those of a typical fascist and therefore suck.
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The Chicks are not played by the vast majority of country music stations, but are now being played by rock stations.
I'm glad for them. Whether one supported the war or not, they didn't deserve the treatment they received. The ladies have talent and at the end of the day that is what matters in the business.
I drove home from work the other day and listened to a country song about a woman who had a cheating lover. She decided to key her name into his 4 x 4, cut his tires, and take her Louisville slugger to his windows, while he danced with his mistress.
I wonder, what does that teach young women? (though I applaud the use of traditional ash over aluminum in bat choice)
Yet, censoring a much better musically talented band (and it is honestly difficult to argue that they aren't, even if you dislike what Natalie said) is acceptable.
I'm glad for them.
The Dixie Chicks had a hit of that type , though in theirs Earl actually dies , it made money in the country circuit.
It is too bad , if you beleive that they are especially musicly talented ,that they were not recognised as tremendous talents by the Grammys untill there was a political reason to do so, it kinda places an asertisk.
The betrayal felt and the betrayal done is pretty much a one way thing and is not reciprocated, I havent heard of President Bush saying anything negative about the Dixie Chicks .
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>>It is too bad , if you beleive that they are especially musicly talented ,that they were not recognised as tremendous talents by the Grammys untill there was a political reason to do so, it kinda places an asertisk.<<
Sometimes greatness comes out of adversity. The Chicks were nothing more than a good (which means mediocre everywhere else) C&W group. Being persecuted by their former shallow and evil fans brought out the best in them as it does with many artists. There will be no asterisk here that isnt a star for bravery and resilience.
>>The betrayal felt and the betrayal done is pretty much a one way thing and is not reciprocated, I havent heard of President Bush saying anything negative about the Dixie Chicks<<
The chickenshit fascist asshole is probly afraid to confront them
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The frequent use of profanity displays a lack of judgement and lack of intellectual acumen. But, that is okay. Many in the population base are of substandard intelligence anyway.
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Lots of idea polarization here. They are free to say what they want as I am free to present opinions as to their views, sometimes that represents itselfe via the wallet, other times via the spoken, or in this case the WRITTEN, word.
I did not like Bill Clinrton's positions on many issues yet I did not advocate his impeachment as others here have or made the crass comments I hear here. If a Republican-leaning entertainer would have gone overeas to a foreign audience during wartime acitvities duirng the Clinton Adminsitration, made comments as they did, I would have said the same, namely that treason was now present.
It is the state of wat that determines the difference. Now, would I have them flogged, etc., OF COUSE NOT. They are private citizens. But, it was , in my opinion, still a treasonous act. I would not have done this, even during the Clinton Administration; I expect them to behave themselves by this standard, namely my own.
There are Republicn leaning entertainers.
But are there none so crass?
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The frequent use of profanity displays a lack of judgement and lack of intellectual acumen. But, that is okay. Many in the population base are of substandard intelligence anyway.
You sound just like the little old lady you surely must be.(With apologies to real little old ladies who surely have more balls than this guy )
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There are Republicn leaning entertainers.
But are there none so crass?
Nearly all fascist leaning entertainers are mediocre at best From sub-B 'Movie Star" Raygun to the sunburst hatted kid rock. Real artists being able to perceive reality better than most are usually of a liberal bent. They do not wallow in their shallow ignorance like RWers.
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I havent heard of President Bush saying anything negative about the Dixie Chicks .
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There would be absolutely NO reason for him to do so, and there is every reason for him not to do so.
It would be incredibly stupid for a president to get into a verbal fight with any pop entertainer.
Maybe if Mike Tyson killed, roasted AND ATE someone, then there would be a reson to speak out...
Pretty much everyone is agreed that murderous cannibals are a negative force.
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Nearly all fascist leaning entertainers are mediocre at best From sub-B 'Movie Star" Raygun to the sunburst hatted kid rock. Real artists being able to perceive reality better than most are usually of a liberal bent. They do not wallow in their shallow ignorance like RWers
I disagree on this. Reagan was a pretty good actor in his day, though not a Cary Grant or a Gregory Peck.
John Wayne was entertaining in most of his films. Charlton Heston was extremely good in Soylent Green and even better in that film where he played two crazy trapper twin brothers in Alaska.
The problem with ratwing actors would be that some might chose to take parts in films that would eventually be seen as just plain dumb (Red Dawn or perhaps those Left Behind books).
Kristofferson managed to be in that awful ABC-TV series Amerika as well as the horrible Heaven's Gate, and he is a bit of a Liberal. Bad casting can wreck an actor. A script can read well and still make a stinker as a film.
An actor's talent does not seem to be very tied to his political beliefs to me.
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I disagree on this. Reagan was a pretty good actor in his day, though not a Cary Grant or a Gregory Peck.
John Wayne was entertaining in most of his films. Charlton Heston was extremely good in Soylent Green and even better in that film where he played two crazy trapper twin brothers in Alaska.
Jimmy Stewart was always one of my favorites.
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Buddy Ebsen was great and very talented beyond the Beverly Hillbillies role.
I've honestly never understood this fascination with the politics of entertainers. Emmylou Harris and Willie Nelson tend to be leftwing in their politics, for example, but I'd bet they both have a lot of fans from all parts of the political spectrum.
I know it isn't PC at the moment, but I'll say that I very much liked The Passion of the Christ and I give Gibson a lot of credit for the film and I could care less about the guy's politics.
That was my point with the Dixie Chicks. They are talented ladies, and basically mix a lot of bluegrass talent with country style.
The Dixie Chicks had a hit of that type , though in theirs Earl actually dies , it made money in the country circuit.
Plane, that was my point (and I'm glad you brought up that very song). For the Country Stations it is very hypocritical to act as though this is some sort of moral principle.
It is too bad , if you beleive that they are especially musicly talented ,that they were not recognised as tremendous talents by the Grammys untill there was a political reason to do so, it kinda places an asertisk.
The Dixie Chicks won nine grammies before winning any this year. I think they simply had more notoriety with this year's awards. They've also won 10 CMA awards, but of course the CMA doesn't particularly care for them now ;)
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For the Country Stations it is very hypocritical to act as though this is some sort of moral principle.
I don't see it as moral principle. It is no more than a simple boycott, for actions that are disliked.
While the Chicks did have the right to say what they said, the country stations also had the right to no longer play their music.
There is no constitutional guarantee of airtime for performers, last time I checked.
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There is no constitutional guarantee of airtime for performers, last time I checked.
True.
Big news here (Music City) is that George Jones and several other older performers are planning to sue the corporations that own the country stations for not playing the older country stars newer albums. According to Jones (and several others) the stations only play works by younger artists.
Might be interesting to see if they get anywhere with it.
I don't see it as moral principle. It is no more than a simple boycott, for actions that are disliked.
"Actions that are disliked" would indicate a moral principle to me.
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"Actions that are disliked" would indicate a moral principle to me.
I don't like going for more than a day without a shower.
Is taking a shower a "moral principle" for me?
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Not a parallel situation.
I doubt seriously that your body odor is a source of outrage, nor does a corporation lose money by deliberately not playing your recordings.
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I doubt seriously that your body odor is a source of outrage,
You've not smelled my body odor after a few days without a shower. ;D
I still don't think that not playing the Chicks' recording by some country stations is "moral outrage" - it's more like "many of our listeners are POed at the Chicks, so we risk losing listeners (market share) if they leave, so we'll stop playing them." More like "market outrage" than "moral outrage."
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For the Country Stations it is very hypocritical to act as though this is some sort of moral principle.
I don't see it as moral principle. It is no more than a simple boycott, for actions that are disliked.
While the Chicks did have the right to say what they said, the country stations also had the right to no longer play their music.
There is no constitutional guarantee of airtime for performers, last time I checked.
I would be the last to disagree with your point about the country radio stations being allowed to no longer play the Dixie Chicks' music.
For one thing, it helps galvanize the point that shitkickers are politically intolerant and pliable clay for the Right Wing wealth mongers, and always have been. It grew, I believe, out of the cauldron of Dixie America, who slavishly carried the banners of the Colonels of the Southern Counties, especially helped by their engendered racism. You are never quite at the bottom as long as somebody throws someone else beneath you.
Altman's NASHVILLE made the point, which was intiated by Nixon, who slouchingly repaired to the Grand Ole Opry when he was in the greatest heat re Watergate, before they ran him out of office.
What I would disagree with is any contention that shitkicker radio should be allowed to continue their iggy-minded intolerance without being confronted heavilly by those who disagree about persecuting the Dixie Chicks for their political stance.
True, it would escalate into a sharply dividied political profile in America, but let's face, it is inevitable that America assert itself in the face of these compliant, suck-up shitkickers who condone a wrongful war and a corrupt administration, as well as other pocket forces who endorse blindly imperialistic groups like the Neocons, as long as they operate and fester and grow under Republican Party. There is little difference between the boundaries of evangelical fruitcake America and puppet, always RW-compliant-American shitkickery. Note the times when country radio as a unified voice are heard--it has been during stresses of hard Right Wing enterprise.
The difference between the Vietnam War and this war is that we had a large number of college students who were not programmed to believe that only craven attrition and crass survival mentiality should define American zeitgeist.
Those students during the Vietnam War had not yet been programmed into an all-encompassing narcissism that would render them confused and unavailable for real political debate.
The only thing that is going to save America from the current ominverous corruption is for the Left to pick up the mantel. Since the elected Democrats are largely long since bought and paid for by the very people that their constituents voted them in to combat against, it is clear that the map of meaningful strategy must change: it must grow from the roots.
I propose, for those who would fight for the right of the Dixie Chicks to retain their freedom of speech, to boycott and worse any shitkicker mentality that continues to strut its ignorance.
It must never be forgotten that American History proves that nothing is gained or maintained without a fight. If you have lost the heart for a fight, then you must hunker in for a low and crass existence, and like itl.
Waits for the arguments that endorse the miscalculation that American shitkickery is the soul of America.
Shitkickery was merely the forerunner of all those groups who rarely play an actual thought out, but continue to ape endorsement of those powers who keep those very shitkickers in their low class digs.
"When will they ever learn . . . when will they EVER learn . . ."
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I propose, for those who would fight for the right of the Dixie Chicks to retain their freedom of speech, to boycott and worse any shitkicker mentality that continues to strut its ignorance.
So, you're proposing to eliminate the freedom of speech of "shitkickers"?
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More like "market outrage" than "moral outrage."
Hmmm...that's probably fair.
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What Crane seems to be promoting is actually the marketplace of ideas, for which the freedom of speech is essential. There is no reason why we of a different faith can't boycott Toby Keith, for example, or ride past roadhouses featuring "offensive" shitkicker music. Aside from being a pain in the ass, a system of reciprocal boycotts is perfectly in keeping with the freedom of expression as that notion is preserved for us in the constitution.
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For the Country Stations it is very hypocritical to act as though this is some sort of moral principle.
I don't see it as moral principle. It is no more than a simple boycott, for actions that are disliked.
While the Chicks did have the right to say what they said, the country stations also had the right to no longer play their music.
There is no constitutional guarantee of airtime for performers, last time I checked.
I would be the last to disagree with your point about the country radio stations being allowed to no longer play the Dixie Chicks' music.
For one thing, it helps galvanize the point that shitkickers are politically intolerant and pliable clay for the Right Wing wealth mongers, and always have been. It grew, I believe, out of the cauldron of Dixie America, who slavishly carried the banners of the Colonels of the Southern Counties, especially helped by their engendered racism. You are never quite at the bottom as long as somebody throws someone else beneath you.
Altman's NASHVILLE made the point, which was intiated by Nixon, who slouchingly repaired to the Grand Ole Opry when he was in the greatest heat re Watergate, before they ran him out of office.
What I would disagree with is any contention that shitkicker radio should be allowed to continue their iggy-minded intolerance without being confronted heavilly by those who disagree about persecuting the Dixie Chicks for their political stance.
True, it would escalate into a sharply dividied political profile in America, but let's face, it is inevitable that America assert itself in the face of these compliant, suck-up shitkickers who condone a wrongful war and a corrupt administration, as well as other pocket forces who endorse blindly imperialistic groups like the Neocons, as long as they operate and fester and grow under Republican Party. There is little difference between the boundaries of evangelical fruitcake America and puppet, always RW-compliant-American shitkickery. Note the times when country radio as a unified voice are heard--it has been during stresses of hard Right Wing enterprise.
The difference between the Vietnam War and this war is that we had a large number of college students who were not programmed to believe that only craven attrition and crass survival mentiality should define American zeitgeist.
Those students during the Vietnam War had not yet been programmed into an all-encompassing narcissism that would render them confused and unavailable for real political debate.
The only thing that is going to save America from the current ominverous corruption is for the Left to pick up the mantel. Since the elected Democrats are largely long since bought and paid for by the very people that their constituents voted them in to combat against, it is clear that the map of meaningful strategy must change: it must grow from the roots.
I propose, for those who would fight for the right of the Dixie Chicks to retain their freedom of speech, to boycott and worse any shitkicker mentality that continues to strut its ignorance.
It must never be forgotten that American History proves that nothing is gained or maintained without a fight. If you have lost the heart for a fight, then you must hunker in for a low and crass existence, and like itl.
Waits for the arguments that endorse the miscalculation that American shitkickery is the soul of America.
Shitkickery was merely the forerunner of all those groups who rarely play an actual thought out, but continue to ape endorsement of those powers who keep those very shitkickers in their low class digs.
"When will they ever learn . . . when will they EVER learn . . ."
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Let's see.
Crane decries a herd mentalty by calling for a herd mentality.
When will they EVER learn, indeed.
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Let's see. Crane decries a herd mentalty by calling for a herd mentality. When will they EVER learn, indeed.
Indeed. Good catch, Bt 8)
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I wonder if there are enough Dixie Chicks fans left in the country music world to demand that their songs reappear there?
I don't know .
Who has a Lee Greenwood CD in his cabinet?
Do you not because you disagree with him politically , or just because you bought something elese for musical reasons?