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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on December 13, 2015, 12:09:16 PM
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lol
https://www.rt.com/usa/325536-us-town-fears-solar-farms/
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Solar panels are made mostly of silicon, steel ansd aluminum, none of which is toxic.
The solar panels will only affect the amount of sunlight hitting the area beneath the solar panel.
These people appear to be hicktown yokels of the most extreme type.
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my people
I have a great affinity for these kind of folks .
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We have a few of those near here, they are usually built on "waste" land .
This wasted land used to have a lot of trees , so , now they have a lot of these unsightly structures.
I would like to see a lot of photovoltaic cells on walls and roofs and on the sides of bridges and the medians of highways on the flanks of smokestacks etc...
I don't like the idea that a woodlot is wasted land.
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Most of Nevada seems ideal for solar panels. The land is alkali and would be useless if there were water, which there isn't.
Germany has lots of solar energy, and I do not think they cut down many trees to make room for solar panels.
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I think it requires being smart about it.
If your solar panels made your parking lot shady , this would not bother .
But what I have seen done is woodlots cut down for them, which is at best half good.
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The problem i have with solar is that people still require a ultility company to supply them with power. Solar should be a home supplimental system to cut down usage from the power company. The better solution should be cutting usage altgether. This way rising prices will be difficult for power companies to do.
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When there are better batteries, it will be possible to rely on solar power alone.
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We got decent ones but the cost of panels and battery will make it totally not viable financially . I'm not even sure it's legal for home to have a battery. Lithium ion in a home can very easily be prevented by the power companies.
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When batteries,not necessarily Lithium ion batteries are cheaper, and this will eventually happen, I do not see how the electric utilities could prevent people from owning and installing them.
Hre in Florida the power companies have lobbies then suckup Republicans in the state legislature to refuse to pass laws by which they would have to buy back power from solar and other sources owned by homeowners. But they have no say over what we can install in our homes.
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The government can forbid almost anything, if you don't watch them they will.
Suppose the power company gets too much influence on the laws composition , they could declare a lot of things unsafe and outlaw them, whether the safety was the main concern or not.
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Thats why i said lithium ion. It's pretty the battery of choice and recently they are starting to explode. Nothing at all to do with home power systems but I can see how power companies can legally stop it.
Battery technology is the one thing we're weak at and The improvements has been very slow. It seems innovation proof
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Lithium ion batteries have exploded a few times. But they rarely explode, and they are not the only type of battery that exists. They Lithium batteries are great because they are lightweight. In a home application, weight is not as important a concern as in a vehicle.
How many Prius explosions, how many Tesla explosions have their been? Very few.
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tesla recently has problems with them but so far thier rep is still intact. but hoverboards are a serious problems at the moment. so if home batteries start cutting corners then explosion are very possible.
thiers are better batteries but thier at such a early stage it`s unknown if they ever past the cost phase. something are just too costly to be sold public is the sad reality sometimes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_battery
I think the flow battery is very promising for home and farm use.
It can be bulky and heavy , but it has a high limit of stored power.
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Yes that does look good but it has no mention of cost and manufactor. These factors are the key for anything to be made. It's why solar companies have a hard time making it.
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Yes that does look good but it has no mention of cost and manufacturer.
Too recent, these are laboratory toys right now, if they can be made to work reliably they might get sold as a product in a few years.
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Crossing fingers
If its too costly lets who some innovator tries to push it forward.
I'm a collector of quality portable radios and awhile ago the nano had the best fm radio I've heard .it out perform alll my radios by a good margin. Then it dawn upon me steve jobs. I can easily imagine him yelling how crappy the radios are and demanding for something better and not caring about the cost. I also notice nobody knew how good the radio is so it made me think people are not deserving of better technology also.
I'm just saying that maybe the delay in innovation is maybe because people msy not care enough to demand it be done.
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Would you like an alternative power source for your Radio?
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1274754
http://www.navitron.org.uk/store
Thomas Seebeck and Jean Peltier,
Thank you
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Actually I'm pretty confidant that if I really try i can make my own power source for my radios. Another project to add on my list. I used to use spent polaroid film to power my radios at one time.
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http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/renewables/hydricity-could-couple-solar-and-hydrogen-power
Hydricity
A very efficient way to build a large solar power plant.
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My mother used a Polaroid for a newspaper job she had. The film packs had a built in battery, and it used very of the available energy, especially if the flash was not used.
I used to fiddle with those batteries, but I never managed to do more than make them spark.
What is the voltage of a Polaroid film pack? Can you power a radio with one, or how many did you need?
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forgot . it`s been a long while. i pretty just simply used a radio that can used that voltage. easy enough to figure the voltage with a multimeter then put in a series if you want to use a much higher amount . i learned early on with higher volts you can go 1 or 2 volts down so no worry about exact matching and when it drains I just keep adding to the series and play with the combination.
heres a trick you may use if you got a radio that uses 4 battery but you only got 3 find something to take the place of the 4th wrap it in foil and insert it . the remaining 3 if fully charged should still power the radio but at a much shorter time.
one time i used a paperclips
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http://www.instantoptions.com/faqs/faqtrouble.oldintegralbattery.php
6Volts.
That is more than I would have guessed.
I haven't seen one of those in quite a while.
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Carbon and alkaline batteries always seem to have a multiple of 1.5. 1.5 volts, 6 volts, 9 volts and so on. If yoy take apart a 9 V battery, you see 6 batteries stacked inside.
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Carbon and alkaline batteries always seem to have a multiple of 1.5. 1.5 volts, 6 volts, 9 volts and so on. If yoy take apart a 9 V battery, you see 6 batteries stacked inside.
Yes , there is a chemical reason for this.
A single cell dry cell , is 1.5 V even if the cell is tiny or giant.
Lead Acid cells are 2 volts each.
The voltage is characteristic of the battery type, that is the chemicals that are involved.
A battery is a set of cells , if they are in series the voltage will be a multiple of the basic cell voltage times the number of cells.
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6 volts . Yes Now I Remember It Powered My midsize. Stuff. Shame I didn't know enough to attach a adapter plug instead of using alligator clips. I still had fun messing with it