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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on November 22, 2007, 03:29:30 PM

Title: Finite
Post by: Plane on November 22, 2007, 03:29:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite

Finite is the opposite of infinite. It may refer to:

Having a finite number of elements: finite set
Being a finite number, so not equal to ; all real numbers are finite
Having a finite size
In physics jargon, finite can mean either non-infinite or non-zero.
A finite state machine or finite automaton is a model of behavior composed of states, transitions and actions.
Finite verb



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Ok all real numbers are finite

But so are all imaginary and irrational numbers.


What is a set in which there is no knowable number?

What is a set in which there is a change from moment to moment?

What is an undefineable set or a paradoxical set?


Bertrand Russel discovered the set that is not equal to itself , is this set finite or not?
Title: Re: Finite
Post by: Plane on November 22, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
http://www.videojug.com/film/how-big-is-the-galaxy
Title: Re: Finite
Post by: hnumpah on November 22, 2007, 03:48:47 PM
I'll take a shot at a couple of them...

What is a set in which there is no knowable number? The largest whole number, a set of one, which we would never know the value of because as soon as we come up with a value, we simply have to add 1 to it. Also the largest fraction of a whole number (and the smallest, for that matter), and any infinite number, such as the value of pi...

What is a set in which there is a change from moment to moment? The total amount of matter or energy in the universe.

Title: Re: Finite
Post by: Plane on November 22, 2007, 10:47:25 PM
I'll take a shot at a couple of them...

What is a set in which there is no knowable number? The largest whole number, a set of one, which we would never know the value of because as soon as we come up with a value, we simply have to add 1 to it. Also the largest fraction of a whole number (and the smallest, for that matter), and any infinite number, such as the value of pi...

What is a set in which there is a change from moment to moment? The total amount of matter or energy in the universe.




I disagree on the Pi , its value is finite and known but it takes an infinate description in decimal terms .

Pi is known is an irrational number , even though it makes perfect sense .