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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on May 12, 2008, 07:43:50 PM

Title: investment tip
Post by: kimba1 on May 12, 2008, 07:43:50 PM

 


Retirement Plan Investment Tip

If you had purchased $1000.00 of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now
be worth $49.00.

With Enron, you would have $16.50 left of the original $1000.

With WorldCom, you would have less than $5.00 left.

If you had purchased $1000.00 of Delta Air Lines stock you would have
$49.00 left.


If you had purchased United Airlines, you would have nothing left.

But, if you had purchased $1000.00 worth of beer one year ago, drank all
the beer, then turned in
the cans for the aluminum recycling refund you would have $214.00.

Based on the above, the best current investment advice is to drink
heavily and recycle.

This is called the 401-Keg Plan.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: Amianthus on May 12, 2008, 07:57:28 PM
But, if you had purchased $1000.00 worth of beer one year ago, drank all
the beer, then turned in the cans for the aluminum recycling refund you would have $214.00.

Aluminum is going for like 5 cents a pound. Are you saying that you can get over 2 TONS of aluminum out of $1000 worth of beer?

Must be pretty cheap beer.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: kimba1 on May 12, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
I kinda doubt it also
but I`m pretty sure you get alot more than 5cents per pound.
I think I got $ 10 for 7lbs of cans last year.
I really gotta recycle more often.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: fatman on May 12, 2008, 09:50:05 PM
Aluminum is going for like 5 cents a pound.

Whoa!

I just called my local recycle yard (Skagit River Steel & Recycling) and they quoted me a price of $0.60 per pound for loose aluminum cans.  Unfortunately, I'm unable to verify that number online so I found this link:  Used beverage can scrap price for May 12 2008 (http://scrapmetalpricesandauctions.com/2008/05/current-scrap-metal-prices-for-aluminum/).  If I read that listing correctly it is listed at $0.63 per pound.

Metal, all metal, has gone through the roof the past few years.  It's not unforseeable that eventually it may become profitable to mine landfills.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: Plane on May 12, 2008, 09:53:35 PM
Energy is required to mine refine and transport meatal.

Increaseing energy cost will drive the value of meatals.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: Amianthus on May 12, 2008, 10:17:53 PM
I just called my local recycle yard (Skagit River Steel & Recycling) and they quoted me a price of $0.60 per pound for loose aluminum cans.  Unfortunately, I'm unable to verify that number online so I found this link:  Used beverage can scrap price for May 12 2008 (http://scrapmetalpricesandauctions.com/2008/05/current-scrap-metal-prices-for-aluminum/).  If I read that listing correctly it is listed at $0.63 per pound.

If you'll notice, those are truckload prices (the LTL and TL indicators). TL is a full truck - at least 30,000 lbs. LTL is less than a truckload, typically at least 100 lbs.

Loose aluminum cans that have not been processed into truckload bales pay much lower amounts. Around here, TL is 0.63 / lb and LTL is 0.32 / lb. - which is the same as your listing. And it's about 32 cans per pound of aluminum, so a case of beer will net you less than $1 in recycling - much less.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: fatman on May 12, 2008, 10:52:45 PM
Loose aluminum cans that have not been processed into truckload bales pay much lower amounts. Around here, TL is 0.63 / lb and LTL is 0.32 / lb. - which is the same as your listing. And it's about 32 cans per pound of aluminum, so a case of beer will net you less than $1 in recycling - much less.

I'm sorry that I misunderstood the information.  I wasn't sure what the TL/LTL thing was, but now I know!  When I called my recycling place for the price, that was for loose cans that I would hypothetically bring in.  I wonder why it's so much higher here than where you're at (which I'm not sure where you're at)?
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: Amianthus on May 13, 2008, 12:11:31 AM
I'm sorry that I misunderstood the information.  I wasn't sure what the TL/LTL thing was, but now I know!  When I called my recycling place for the price, that was for loose cans that I would hypothetically bring in.  I wonder why it's so much higher here than where you're at (which I'm not sure where you're at)?

You must have a government subsidy. I know there was one in Minnesota, but it still only brought the price for loose cans up to about .40 / lb.

I'm in North Carolina currently.
Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 13, 2008, 03:18:59 PM
I maintain that buying canned beer, drinking it, and selling the cans at whatever price is recreational, and is not satisfactory to anyone from an investment standpoint.

Title: Re: investment tip
Post by: kimba1 on May 13, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
well
not as a investment
but if your a non-drinker and have heavy beer drinkers as friends(which i did).
I made quite a decent amount of money collecting the bottles and cans.