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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on September 20, 2008, 12:22:17 PM
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Aaaawwww, why is everyone hatin' on poor ole Sarah? Why do they hate women? Oh, wait, Hillary Clinton is still a woman, right?
What's utterly delicious about this is how when Obama won the primary and then he didn't pick Hillary as his running mate, the rightwing comedians on the radio (Hannity, Limbaugh, my guy Fleming) suddenly became major Hillary supporters who felt so sorry for her and had so much respect for her and said Obama was so sexist.
Now that Palin's been thrown over for Hillary, I guess it's time to switch gears to using the word "partisan" for the negative attacks.
Sarah Palin blames 'Democrat partisans' for her being uninvited to rally
From the Associated Press
September 20, 2008
BLAINE, MINN. -- Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told supporters Friday that "Democrat partisans" had pressured organizers of an anti-Iran rally in New York next week to withdraw an invitation for her to appear.
"This should be an issue that unites all Americans. Iran should not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, period," Palin said at a rally in this Twin Cities suburb. "Unfortunately, some Democrat partisans put politics first, and now no elected official can appear. This should not be a matter of partisan politics."
Palin had been set to attend the rally protesting Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad organized by major Jewish organizations and sponsored by the National Coalition to Stop Iran Now. New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton also had been scheduled to appear at the rally, but canceled after learning from reporters that Palin would be there.
On Thursday, organizers announced that they had withdrawn their invitation for Palin to attend, saying they did not want the event to be overtly political.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-paliniran20-2008sep20,0,1950103.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-paliniran20-2008sep20,0,1950103.story)
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Rush Limbaugh was supporting Hillary a good while before the BHO selection , he thought she was the easyer one to beat.
What has Limbaugh upset right now is the Obama campaign misquoteing him so badly that it makes him seem racist.
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What has Limbaugh upset right now is the Obama campaign misquoteing him so badly that it makes him seem racist.
Seem to be?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp)
And from Wiki http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh)
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990) where he expresses some remorse at having said it; also in The Way Things Aren't : Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error (1995) by Steve Rendall, Jim Naureckas, and Jeff Cohen [ISBN 156584260X] , "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)
"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
As quoted in Flush Rush Quarterly (January 1993) and in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and in "Off Sides" by Michael Tomasky in The American Prospect (16 July 2003)
"They're 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
Of African-Americans, as quoted in "Limbaugh Brings Baggage with his ESPN Blabber" by Derrick Z. Jackson inThe Boston Globe (16 July 2003), and "Colorblind football fans know Rush is wrong" by Richard Roeper in Chicago Sun-Times (1 October 2003)
"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
As quoted in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and at "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)
"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."
As quoted in "Dittohead Blues" in the LA Weekly (9 October 2003)
"I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back; I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."
As quoted in 101 People who are REALLY Screwing Up America (2006) by Jack Huberman
Note: A second reference for this quote has not been found. Please see Talk page for discussion.
"You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed."
As quoted in 101 People who are REALLY Screwing Up America (2006) by Jack Huberman
Note: A second reference for this quote has not been found. Please see Talk page for discussion.
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If Mikey had a national radio show would his remarks be seen as racist, bigoted and prejudicial?
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I think we can safely answer that in the affirmative
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What has Limbaugh upset right now is the Obama campaign misquoteing him so badly that it makes him seem racist.
Seem to be?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp)
And from Wiki http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh)
Why did the Obama Campaign need to reverse the meaning of what they quoted then?
If there are so many "real" examples ready to hand it seems strange that they needed to create one.
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What has Limbaugh upset right now is the Obama campaign misquoteing him so badly that it makes him seem racist.
Seem to be?
Why did the Obama Campaign need to reverse the meaning of what they quoted then? If there are so many "real" examples ready to hand it seems strange that they needed to create one.
Very similar to the "so much documentation" garbage regarding Bush knowing Saddam had no WMD...very similar to all these supposed "racist" acts of the GOP, while the blatant examples by the left get pushed under the rug & ignored
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Except the case against Limbaugh is well documented. I remember working with 'dittoheads' in the early 90's, I'd go find things to do out on the sim just to get out of the breakroom and away from the radio when he was on. Never saw what their attraction was to Rush. To me he was just a loudmouthed lout. Still is - a loudmouth, racist, druggie, hypocritical lout. But hey, to each his own. I like Doctor Demento myself.
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Except the case against Limbaugh is well documented. I remember working with 'dittoheads' in the early 90's, I'd go find things to do out on the sim just to get out of the breakroom and away from the radio when he was on. Never saw what their attraction was to Rush. To me he was just a loudmouthed lout. Still is - a loudmouth, racist, druggie, hypocritical lout. But hey, to each his own. I like Doctor Demento myself.
De gustibus non est disputandum
(day GOOS-ti-boos nohn est dis-poo-TAHN-dem)
http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/degustibusno.html (http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/degustibusno.html)
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Oogah boogah Chattanooga.
:P
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<<Very similar to the "so much documentation" garbage regarding Bush knowing Saddam had no WMD...very similar to all these supposed "racist" acts of the GOP, while the blatant examples by the left get pushed under the rug & ignored>>
Amazing how sirs almost never misses an opportunity to drag in the issue of Bush's Biggest Lies into threads which have absolutely no relation to it, merely to get in a gratuitous crack at it. He gets to call the "Bush Lied, They Died" POV "garbage" with almost no fear of contradiction since it's totally off topic. It's almost like he's learned from ear-marking.
Well, not to contribute to the further hijacking of the thread, but I can't let a gratuitous and blatant lie go unchallenged, irrelevant or not: Bush DID lie the nation into war and I believe a majority of the American people now realize that is a fact, not a theory. Not only were there no WMD, Bush did NOT have even the "slam-dunk" intelligence case that there were WMD still in Iraq, the intelligence that indicated there were WMD in Iraq could all be traced back to a single source having a vested interest in a U.S. invasion AND there was countervailing intelligence that there were no WMD in Iraq, the Bush administration systematically discounted or bypassed the conventional intelligence channels and set up their own analysis and review section in the office of Douglas Feith, a Zionist and former Likud operative, to tailor-make the "intelligence" they were going to act on to invade Iraq, some of the supporting evidence presented to the American people in support of the invasion was not only a crude forgery, but the President had already been advised of that fact before he referred to them as proof positive in his State of the Union address, his closest advisers all belonged to PNAC, which had published a plan advocating the invasion of Iraq and tried unsuccessfully to sell it to the Clinton administration and get them to invade, without even bothering to formulate a pretext . . .
I've only scratched the surface. The list goes on ad nauseam. I realize this won't prevent sirs or others of his ilk from spreading the lie that any talk of Bush lying the country into war is "garbage" but I don't think it's right to stand by silently while he spreads this lying bullshit and thinks it will just fly in under the radar.
Bush is a fucking criminal. He, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Perle, Feith and Wolfowicz are war criminals bearing direct responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of human beings and should be put on trial as such, the sooner the better. It's the duty of every American citizen to do what he or she can to advocate that these criminals be brought to justice.
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Why did the Obama Campaign need to reverse the meaning of what they quoted then?
If there are so many "real" examples ready to hand it seems strange that they needed to create one.
Reverse the meaning of what?
create what?
What the Hell are you talking about? Limbaugh?
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Why did the Obama Campaign need to reverse the meaning of what they quoted then?
If there are so many "real" examples ready to hand it seems strange that they needed to create one.
Reverse the meaning of what?
create what?
What the Hell are you talking about? Limbaugh?
http://www.thenextright.com/warner-todd-huston/old-media-helps-obama-push-false-rush-limbaugh-immigration-quotes
Yes , if Limbaugh has produced a copious number of quoteable racist quips, why would one create one oneself, to use in an BHO advertisement?
On top of all these misuses of Limbaugh's words, to link Limbaugh with McCain on immigration is also a lie. Limbaugh was strongly against John McCain's soft immigration stance in the Senate. So, linking Limbaugh to McCain is simply absurd.
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Yes , if Limbaugh has produced a copious number of quoteable racist quips, why create one yoourself to use in an BHO advertisement?
myself?
I have nothing to do with any campaign.
There are NO specific phony Limbaugh quotes mentioned by anyone in this post.
What the poo are you talking about?
Limbaugh is not so much a racist as he is a mean-spirited wiseacre who will say anything if paid enough. He is paid plenty to say what he says. Enough to be a full-bore junky and get away with a slap on the wrist.
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Is the prize worth the risk of Obama sullying his reputation by approving ads that are outright lies?
I know the GOP does it, but we have been conditioned to believe the GOP plays dirty, and we have also been conditioned to believe that the dems are paragons of virtue.
So have we been exposed to a double lie?
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Yes , if Limbaugh has produced a copious number of quoteable racist quips, why create one yoourself to use in an BHO advertisement?
myself?
I have nothing to do with any campaign.
There are NO specific phony Limbaugh quotes mentioned by anyone in this post.
What the poo are you talking about?
Limbaugh is not so much a racist as he is a mean-spirited wiseacre who will say anything if paid enough. He is paid plenty to say what he says. Enough to be a full-bore junky and get away with a slap on the wrist.
Ok "you " was a poor way for me to put that , since it isn't generic enough to be understood as not you specificly , pardon my inexact phraseing.
Rush Limbaugh is being slandered and falsely quoted for Spanish speaking audiences , I should have known you would never do that.
The link explains in greater detail , and more cogently than I am accustomed to being.
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Imagine how terrible for Limbaugh to be slandered.
I am sure he cries all the way to the bank.
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Slander is slander no matter the size of the bank account.
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But Limbaugh, as has been pointed out, has not really been slandered. I am sure that he would sue if he had a case, and felt it was good for his career.
He is a public figure who makes his living badmouthing others, after all.
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But Limbaugh, as has been pointed out, has not really been slandered. I am sure that he would sue if he had a case, and felt it was good for his career.
He is a public figure who makes his living badmouthing others, after all.
My understanding is he was grossly taken out of context , in effect lied about by a campaign that says it was above dirty politics and swift boat tactics, yet this is what we get, another lie from the clean slate.
BTW an absence of legal action does not constitute guilt. It simple constitutes a lack of legal action at the moment.