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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on July 27, 2011, 12:49:35 PM

Title: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Kramer on July 27, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
At a lengthy hearing on ATF's controversial gunwalking operation today, a key ATF manager told Congress he discussed the case with a White House National Security staffer as early as September 2010. The communications were between ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office, Bill Newell, and White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O'Reilly. Newell said the two are longtime friends. The content of what Newell shared with O'Reilly is unclear and wasn't fully explored at the hearing.

It's the first time anyone has publicly stated that a White House official had any familiarity with ATF's operation Fast and Furious, which allowed thousands of weapons to fall into the hands of suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels in an attempt to gain intelligence. It's unknown as to whether O'Reilly shared information with anybody else at the White House.

Congressional investigators obtained an email from Newell to O'Reilly in September of last year in which Newell began with the words: "you didn't get this from me."

"What does that mean," one member of Congress asked Newell, " 'you didn't get this from me?' "

"Obviously he was a friend of mine," Newell replied, "and I shouldn't have been sending that to him."

Newell told Congress that O'Reilly had asked him for information.

"Why do you think he asked for that information," Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) asked Newell.

"He was asking about the impact of Project Gunrunner to brief people in preparation for a trip to Mexico... what we were doing to combat firearms trafficking and other issues."

Today, a White House spokesman said the email was not about Fast and Furious, but about other gun trafficking efforts. The spokesman also said he didn't know what Newell was referring to when he said he'd spoken to O'Reilly about Fast and Furious.

President Obama has said neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder authorized or knew about the operation. Holder has asked the Inspector General to investigate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20083772-10391695.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20083772-10391695.html)
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 27, 2011, 03:17:32 PM
This is looking more disgraceful by the day.
I have a gut-feeling there is a huge cover-up going on.
The stench is beginning to really smell of something unbelievable!
The Chicago Mafia is good at cover-ups.
But hopefully Congressman Issa can get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Kramer on July 27, 2011, 04:49:03 PM
This is looking more disgraceful by the day.
I have a gut-feeling there is a huge cover-up going on.
The stench is beginning to really smell of something unbelievable!
The Chicago Mafia is good at cover-ups.
But hopefully Congressman Issa can get to the bottom of this.

The coverup is what usually gets them.
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Plane on July 27, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
      I can't understand what the origional intent was.

      Did they have a means of tracking those guns that failed?
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Kramer on July 27, 2011, 09:25:09 PM
      I can't understand what the origional intent was.

      Did they have a means of tracking those guns that failed?

The person that thought this one up probably wrote Obama's speech the other night and likely came up with the idea for all the stimulus spending. So if you can figure any of those things out then you broke the code!
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 28, 2011, 02:07:55 PM
Every time some dumb whoop-whoop alarm wakes you up, you have Issa to thank for it.
The guy is a fool.

He got Gray Davis removed as governor, and when he was upstaged by Ahnold, he actually broke down and CRIED.
Title: Re: WH knew ATF was running guns into Mexico
Post by: Kramer on July 28, 2011, 04:26:10 PM
Every time some dumb whoop-whoop alarm wakes you up, you have Issa to thank for it.
The guy is a fool.

He got Gray Davis removed as governor, and when he was upstaged by Ahnold, he actually broke down and CRIED.

So you are OK with Obama Administration illegally exporting guns to Mexico that have been used to kill our Border Patrol agents?