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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BT on August 12, 2011, 12:10:31 AM
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Newt did well
Romney stayed above the fray.
Bachmann beat Pawlenty
Santorum and Paul cancelled each other
Cain did ok but he won't win the big prize
Huntsman didn't introduce himself to the nation well at all.
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Newt did well
Romney stayed above the fray.
Bachmann beat Pawlenty
Santorum and Paul cancelled each other
Cain did ok but he won't win the big prize
Huntsman didn't introduce himself to the nation well at all.
this is newts venue,
he's very articulate,
credible and smart,
but not only smart
he's an expert in US History.
His qualifications are impressive.
Any of those people mentioned should beat Obama
because poor Barry has to run against his record and his
record is sickening.
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One thing I don't like about Mitt, he is playing the game , not talking to me.
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He currently is playing the runner. That scenario will no longer be operative in the coming weeks.
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He currently is playing the runner. That scenario will no longer be operative in the coming weeks.
At the end of the day hMitt won't be the candidate. I like Perry, Bachmann & Cain. I would be very happy with either Cain or Perry. Forget Huntsman, Pawlenty, Newt & Santorum. Paul I just don't know if he can pull it off but for some reason I don't think he's crazy like I used to think.
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it's looking like Romney or Perry
it's way early, but some of these guys should already throw in the towel
but I guess it's good for them to stay so the liberal mass media
doesn't have just one or two targets to demonize
spread the leftist demonization out and it waters down some
i am sure the McCain/Dole fans loves Pawlenty.....Zzzzzzzzz!
it doesn't look like we have anyone that people are gonna "vote for"
but we may have someone that can win just by enough people voting against Obama.
the economy/gas prices will be the deciding factor....
unless Barry attacks Iran...which I doubt he will....unless a real real bad depression hits.
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it doesn't look like we have anyone that people are gonna "vote for"
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Newt has zero chance of winning.
The Iowa Caucus is a tiny group of cryptofascists.
Essentially meaningless except to weed out the utter losers, like Santorum, Paul and Cain
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it doesn't look like we have anyone that people are gonna "vote for"
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Newt has zero chance of winning.
The Iowa Caucus is a tiny group of cryptofascists.
Essentially meaningless except to weed out the utter losers, like Santorum, Paul and Cain
the boy you voted for doesn't stand a chance of reelection in 2012.
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Everyone has a better chance than the Newtster, except Bachmann.
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Everyone has a better chance than the Newtster, except Bachmann.
if you read what I wrote then you wouldn't be lecturing me on Newt. We agree for once. I also said (at this point) I would be happy with Perry or Cain.
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Cain has zero chance.
Perry would be an AWFUL president. This country does not need some goofy weirdo that holds "prayer meetings"
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Cain has zero chance.
Perry would be an AWFUL president. This country does not need some goofy weirdo that holds "prayer meetings"
Does the country need someone who thinks prayer meetings are "weird"?
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Prayer meetings with 25,000 are definitely weird. And I am not running, in any case.
If God is everywhere, then why is it necessary to gather 25,000 in a stadium? Is the supposition that God is deaf or not omniscient as we have heard?
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Prayer meetings with 25,000 are definitely weird. And I am not running, in any case.
If God is everywhere, then why is it necessary to gather 25,000 in a stadium? Is the supposition that God is deaf or not omniscient as we have heard?
With Music on the radio , how does anyone ever sell a concert ticket?
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Mit Romney's resume and Herman Cains personality would be a really good canadate.
Can someone with Hermams personality ever get a resume like Mitts?
Does a long career in power wring it out?
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From the Professors old friend Jerry Pournelle:
A Program
Getting the economy going again is important; the Democrats aren’t going to do it. The “stimulus” with its “shovel ready” jobs didn’t do it – indeed, the President was amused to tell us that the shovels weren’t as ready as he had thought. A near trillion dollar oops. The problem was that funneling the money to cronies didn’t do anything to rebuild the national infrastructure, which continues to deteriorate. A new stimulus won’t help that. The infrastructure can be rebuilt by state and local governments, and will have to, but to do that will require state and local government reforms: all levels of government are broke, and will stay that way until the economy improves. Getting the feds out of that act will stimulate the states to compete for jobs and capital – as Texas is already doing, extracting a lot of jobs and capital from Silicon Valley to Austin and other high tech regions in Texas. Competition among the states will reduce regulatory strangulation, but only if the feds stop throttling the economy.
There is a way to get started on this. Now.
I do hope that all the candidates will adopt this program:
Double the exemption numbers for small businesses: that is, whatever regulations you are exempt from by dint of having 10 or fewer employees, you will now be exempt if you have 20 or fewer; similarly for larger numbers. The regulations will still apply, but the exemption numbers are doubled.
Suspend Sarbanes-Oxley until it can entirely be rewritten. This glob of financial regulations was enacted in reaction to Enron. It doesn’t do what it was intended to do. There are said to be some good effects from it: let those be debated and reenacted. The stifling effects are obvious. The good points are a bit more obscure. It needs work, and until that time, it ought to be put out of the way.
Suspend Dodd-Frank until it can entirely be rewritten. This is another enormous act that was poorly thought out, and has had wide ranging effects that were not intended. The whole notion of financial regulations needs rethinking.
Repeal ObamaCare. If we need a new national health care plan, work on that; but this one isn’t going to work.
The Republicans can pass these measures in the House. They won’t be accepted in the Senate but the debates will be enlightening, and this will have a salutary effect on the Presidential election. ObamaCare was passed by a lame duck session with a reconciliation conference, without any proper debate. We have seen enough of Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank to know they are stifling: let them be defended in public debate.
The message will be that the Republicans stand for freedom, the Democrats for more government control. It is time to have the American people choose. Either we go down the road to Empire or we turn again toward a Free Republic. Rome had centuries of Imperial Glory after Augustus converted the Republic to Empire and Claudius set up the Imperial bureaucracy using freedmen. Competent Empire is a viable system of government; competent empires have lasted longer than most Republics. The United States at 235 years or so is a bit young compared to the Roman Republic which was around 400 years old at its collapse, and much younger than the Venetian Republic when Napoleon ended it. Britain became what amounts to an aristocratic republic in 1688. France in 1789. Britain and France seem destined to be absorbed in the bureaucracy of the European Union. We will see.
But the alternatives are stark here. Either we go back toward renewing the Republic or we slide further and further into rule by bureaucracy; and the remedy to that is generally empire. Turn to someone who can control the rapacious officials. One of our main complaints against King George III (really against the Parliament of Westminster) is that the king had erected needless Offices and sent among us swarms of Officers to harass the people and eat out their substance. Would we had only the customs and Stamp Act officers now!
http://jerrypournelle.com/jerrypournelle.c/chaosmanor/#program (http://jerrypournelle.com/jerrypournelle.c/chaosmanor/#program)
And for your musical enjoyment:
Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Boston Tea Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JvHroG3u5E#)
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Cain has zero chance.
Perry would be an AWFUL president. This country does not need some goofy weirdo that holds "prayer meetings"
i will take perry's religion over obama's religion any day oi the week. for that matter, I will take perry's religion over yours too. I like the religion of being qualified to be president.
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Mit Romney's resume and Herman Cains personality would be a really good canadate.
Can someone with Hermams personality ever get a resume like Mitts?
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Cain's personality sucks. He is a loudmouthed blowhard. Perhaps he was well-suited to run a third class pizza chain.
Romney's father failed to get the nomination for president when he said he was brainwashed about Vietnam, which was essentially true, and he served as a one term governor. Big effing deal.
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Mit Romney's resume and Herman Cains personality would be a really good canadate.
Can someone with Hermams personality ever get a resume like Mitts?
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Cain's personality sucks. He is a loudmouthed blowhard. Perhaps he was well-suited to run a third class pizza chain.
Romney's father failed to get the nomination for president when he said he was brainwashed about Vietnam, which was essentially true, and he served as a one term governor. Big effing deal.
romney's father isn't running for office and Cain would make a much much much better president than Obama.
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Cain will never get the nomination.
Romney is much more likely to do so, but I question the opinion that he has such a great resumé. Huntsman's seems better.
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Cain will never get the nomination.
Romney is much more likely to do so, but I question the opinion that he has such a great resumé. Huntsman's seems better.
Cain is a man, obama is a boy!
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Cain will never get the nomination.
Romney is much more likely to do so, but I question the opinion that he has such a great resumé. Huntsman's seems better.
What is the reason to think of Romney as a frount runner?
Is he the choice of the media?
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Romney is not barking mad like Cain, Bachmann, Paul or Palin. He is not carbon copy of Juniorbush like Perry, or hated by 3/4th so the nation like Gingrich.
Of course, he made the Grover Norquest Pledge, so he is clearly unrealistic as to how to fix the economy.
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You realise ,don't you ,that your accusation of barking madness is about the best endorsement I could have heard from you.
If Romney is easily acceptable to the left , then I will want a stronger antidote to the obamapoision.
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I would not vote for Romney, I just do not consider him to be insane like the rest of the reactionaries.
Anyone who says they will not raise taxes before they actually are president and know the total situation is a total fool, especially when that means they will not end loopholes in the tax code, which is how Grover Norquist defines it.
None of them would swear that they would not start a war or even refuse a specific weapons system, and taxes are at least as important as those things.
I do not represent the left or anyone but myself. If you make your decisions based on opinions of others, then your opinions are not worth much. I'd never do that.
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Anyone who says they will not raise taxes before they actually are president and know the total situation is a total fool, especially when that means they will not end loopholes in the tax code, which is how Grover Norquist defines it.
Not true.
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/grover-norquist-closing-loopholes-not-the-same-as-raising-taxes/ (http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/grover-norquist-closing-loopholes-not-the-same-as-raising-taxes/)
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I value your opinion without feeling obliged to agree or oppose it, You are a thinking person and the development of your opinions are good for me to consider even if I go in another direction.
Mitt is not my favoriate , he is presently too involved in the triangulation of staying ahead to say anything of consequence.
Herman Chain is mmore like what I want, good with math and having a good understanding of business and the common wisdom.
It is almost a shame to send a great guy like that to Washington DC to get ruined.
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I would not worried about Herman Cain becoming president.
He has a better chance of visiting Jupiter.
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I would not worried about Herman Cain becoming president.
He has a better chance of visiting Jupiter.
as usual you are wrong
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When Cain fails to get the nomination, I will tell you that you were wrong.
Also when he fails to become president.
He doesn't have the support in the GOP. He has not
"paid his dues", which is a big deal for them. And, of course, running Cain against Obama would surely bring a White third party candidate out to confound the election. Cain could not get any 50%
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at this juncture
i like Mitt's chances as the best chance to beat Obama
that's really what Republicans should base their decision on
who in the field of Republicans running....stands the best chance to beat Obama
if you agree with John Doe on 10 out 10 issues, but he cant win in Nov
whats the point?
I'd rather nominate a 70% I agree with winner in Nov
than a candidate I agree with 100% that cant win in Nov
I like everyone running on the Republican side
but lets be honest....most of them could not win in Nov
once the media/unions/leeches all get behind Obama
it's gonna be a tight race....
too many leeches wont want their gravy train ended
lets nominate a winner....Mitt and maybe Perry are the only winners at this point.
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When Cain fails to get the nomination, I will tell you that you were wrong.
Also when he fails to become president.
He doesn't have the support in the GOP. He has not
"paid his dues", which is a big deal for them. And, of course, running Cain against Obama would surely bring a White third party candidate out to confound the election. Cain could not get any 50%
No you are wrong, as usual, when you said Cain has a better chance of visiting Jupiter. The odds are better that he stays on earth and becomes the R nominee and wins the election.
Obama has a better chance of visiting Jupiter than being reelected in 2012.
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There is a 99.99% chance that Cain will neither be nominated nor visit Jupiter.
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There is a 99.99% chance that Cain will neither be nominated nor visit Jupiter.
Nope, there's 100% chance he won't visit Jupiter. I'd say it's a 30% chance he wins the R nomination, but if he does then it will be 97% that he beats Obama, and if it turns out to be Clinton then the number drops to 86%.
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He doesn't have the support in the GOP. ..................... And, of course, running Cain against Obama would surely bring a White third party candidate out .....................
How do you have such a certanty of the racist Point of view, or such a fine measure of the party you agree with least?
Both partys are headed by pragmatists, who any day now will realise that Black canadates have a recent history of drawing over 90% of the black vote. Since White guys will vote for anybody, why should anyone try to run a ticket without this advantage?
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He doesn't have the support in the GOP. ..................... And, of course, running Cain against Obama would surely bring a White third party candidate out .....................
How do you have such a certanty of the racist Point of view, or such a fine measure of the party you agree with least?
Both partys are headed by pragmatists, who any day now will realise that Black canadates have a recent history of drawing over 90% of the black vote. Since White guys will vote for anybody, why should anyone try to run a ticket without this advantage?
good luck on getting a logical answer to that question.
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Since White guys will vote for anybody, why should anyone try to run a ticket without this advantage?
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Not all White guys will "vote for anybody".
If the primary assumption is wrong, all conclusions drawn from it will be wrong. Cain being Black is not an advantage. Neither is Cain being a pompous old windbag capable of only spouting platitudes and jingoistic nonsense.
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Since White guys will vote for anybody, why should anyone try to run a ticket without this advantage?
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Not all White guys will "vote for anybody".
If the primary assumption is wrong, all conclusions drawn from it will be wrong. Cain being Black is not an advantage. Neither is Cain being a pompous old windbag capable of only spouting platitudes and jingoistic nonsense.
Cains accomplishments, compared to Obama, speak volumes. Considering Obama's only real accomplishment is getting elected to something. After the election ends he can't deliver. What did Obama do before becoming a professional politician? Nothing to write home about, nothing to brag about, and nothing that is noteworthy. If Obama wasn't propped up by the press and wealthy influential people what would he be doing right now? Would he be qualified to run a Taco Bell or a Payless Shoe store, NOPE! Obama is proof that an imbecile can be president and they can do it at a piss poor level.
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XO is just down on Cain because he is black.
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XO is just down on Cain because he is black.
I think you are correct.
XO (and liberals) looked at Obama (in the 2008 election) as the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. And 'light-skinned' and had 'no Negro dialect.'
But Cain, on the other hand, isn't at all like Obama; he's darker and speaks with negro dialect so people like XO can't imagine voting for a guy like Cain. Cain is just too negro to be president...sad but that is the liberal mindset.
Same liberal mindset as black people can't make it without the government either subsidizing them or giving them Affirmative Action -- very very racist! and SAD!
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Cain may know how to run a third-class Pizza chain. He is remarkably ignorant of world affairs.
He will not be a candidate in 2012. By 2016, he will be too old. But the GOP is not giving him the nomination, as you will see.
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Cain may know how to run a third-class Pizza chain. He is remarkably ignorant of world affairs.
He will not be a candidate in 2012. By 2016, he will be too old. But the GOP is not giving him the nomination, as you will see.
So not only are you a racist but into age discrimination too. Boy do you fit the mold of a liberal. XO the cookie cutter liberal.
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Cain may know how to run a third-class Pizza chain. He is remarkably ignorant of world affairs.
I am starting to get tired of a president that counts his popularity with all the rest of the world.
A president more concerned with the US would be a plus to me, even moreso if he doesn't discount citizenship in "flyover country".
By the way from what evidence do you gain the insight that Herman is ignorant on any particular?
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By the way from what evidence do you gain the insight that Herman is ignorant on any particular?
I think he's just an expert on ignorance; after all, he voted for Obama and said he will do it again in 2012.
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Herman Cain’s peculiar politics
by: Ryan C. Ebersole
July 25 2011
tags: ultra right, Republicans, elections, GOP, op-ed
cain
Besides being the only minority in the GOP presidential field, Herman Cain also stands out from his competitors in another way: his lack of political experience, which Cain cites as an advantage. In fact, although he is relatively new to the public, he has been involved in national politics since at least 1996.
Cain's background seems to be consistent with the "American Dream." The son of a maid and a chauffeur, he graduated from Purdue with a Master's in Computer Science and worked for the Navy before moving on to Coca-Cola as a business analyst. After working as an executive for Burger King, he was appointed president of Godfather's Pizza, a Pillsbury subsidiary. Under Cain, Godfather's Pizza was so profitable that he was able to buy it from Pillsbury.
In 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association, a lobbying group. That same year, he served as senior economic advisor to Bob Dole's presidential campaign. Cain also briefly ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2004, for a Senate seat in Georgia. During this time he also served as a commentator for Fox Business and hosted his own radio show in Atlanta.
However, it is his current presidential attempt that is the most newsworthy. In December 2010, he was the surprise winner of a poll on the conservative website redstate.com. He was also declared the winner of the Fox News GOP primary debate in New Hampshire by a poll of a sample of the audience.
Perhaps in an effort to show off his conservative potential, Cain has made a string of controversial comments.
Among the most controversial are his statements about Muslims. He has voiced concerns about "creeping" sharia law, and has said he would not be comfortable appointing Muslims to his administration. When pressed at the New Hampshire debate, he conceded that he might appoint a Muslim, but he or she would be held to higher loyalty standards than other appointees. He claimed this is not "bigoted, it is called being careful and cautious" to keep "jihadists" out of the government.
Cain even got involved in the recent Murfreesboro, Tenn., anti-Mosque hysteria. He proclaimed that communities "have a right" to ban mosques, adding that such a ban doesn't violate the separation of church and state because "Islam combines church and state."
Cain says he wouldn't have a problem appointing an openly gay person, because they wouldn't try to "impose sharia law." However, as he has previously described being gay as "sinful" and a "choice," the openness seems more theoretical than actual - especially in light of rumors that his campaign has been purging gay staffers.
Cain has applied a similar mix of confusion and ignorance to his foreign policy as well. He has said he doesn't know enough about Afghanistan to voice an opinion, but he certainly has plenty to say on Israel. His "Cain Doctrine" is "You mess with Israel; you are messing with the United States." During a Fox News interview with Chris Wallace, Cain was asked whether he supported the right of displaced Palestinians to return to Israel. Appearing to have no idea what Wallace was talking about, he responded that he supported it because he felt Israel would have no problem with it - showing profound ignorance of Israel's long-standing hostility to the "right of return."
And how would Cain solve the problem of illegal immigration? He wants to emulate the Great Wall of China on our southern border. Cain's wall would be a "20-foot wall, barbed wire, electrified on the top" with a "moat" on the other side. And yes, Cain would "put those alligators in that moat!"
Cain would put oil and coal companies in charge of EPA regulations. He says he would create a special "regulatory reduction commission" to cut down environmental regulations, and would appoint industry insiders, including the CEO of Shell because Shell has been "abused" by the EPA.
Back when Donald Trump was promoting "birtherism," Cain was on board with that. During a March interview with a Florida conservative group, the Shark Tank, Cain said Trump's birth certificate allegations against President Obama weren't "off base" and that he hadn't studied the issue enough to have an opinion, but that Obama should "prove he was born in the United States of America."
In fact Cain believes that Obama was "raised in Kenya." Perhaps he has been misled by his fellow Fox employee, Mike Huckabee, who claimed that Obama witnessed the Kenyan Mau Mau revolution.
In light of all of this, perhaps it isn't surprising that Cain opposes the minimum wage, wants to defund Planned Parenthood and privatize Medicare, and believes Social Security is a "scam."
So what's next for this CEO-turned-lobbyist-turned-alligator-in-moat-enthusiast? Probably not the White House.
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Herman Cain’s peculiar politics
by: Ryan C. Ebersole
July 25 2011
tags: ultra right, Republicans, elections, GOP, op-ed
cain
Besides being the only minority in the GOP presidential field, Herman Cain also stands out from his competitors in another way: his lack of political experience, which Cain cites as an advantage. In fact, although he is relatively new to the public, he has been involved in national politics since at least 1996.
Cain's background seems to be consistent with the "American Dream." The son of a maid and a chauffeur, he graduated from Purdue with a Master's in Computer Science and worked for the Navy before moving on to Coca-Cola as a business analyst. After working as an executive for Burger King, he was appointed president of Godfather's Pizza, a Pillsbury subsidiary. Under Cain, Godfather's Pizza was so profitable that he was able to buy it from Pillsbury.
In 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association, a lobbying group. That same year, he served as senior economic advisor to Bob Dole's presidential campaign. Cain also briefly ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2004, for a Senate seat in Georgia. During this time he also served as a commentator for Fox Business and hosted his own radio show in Atlanta.
However, it is his current presidential attempt that is the most newsworthy. In December 2010, he was the surprise winner of a poll on the conservative website redstate.com. He was also declared the winner of the Fox News GOP primary debate in New Hampshire by a poll of a sample of the audience.
Perhaps in an effort to show off his conservative potential, Cain has made a string of controversial comments.
Among the most controversial are his statements about Muslims. He has voiced concerns about "creeping" sharia law, and has said he would not be comfortable appointing Muslims to his administration. When pressed at the New Hampshire debate, he conceded that he might appoint a Muslim, but he or she would be held to higher loyalty standards than other appointees. He claimed this is not "bigoted, it is called being careful and cautious" to keep "jihadists" out of the government.
Cain even got involved in the recent Murfreesboro, Tenn., anti-Mosque hysteria. He proclaimed that communities "have a right" to ban mosques, adding that such a ban doesn't violate the separation of church and state because "Islam combines church and state."
Cain says he wouldn't have a problem appointing an openly gay person, because they wouldn't try to "impose sharia law." However, as he has previously described being gay as "sinful" and a "choice," the openness seems more theoretical than actual - especially in light of rumors that his campaign has been purging gay staffers.
Cain has applied a similar mix of confusion and ignorance to his foreign policy as well. He has said he doesn't know enough about Afghanistan to voice an opinion, but he certainly has plenty to say on Israel. His "Cain Doctrine" is "You mess with Israel; you are messing with the United States." During a Fox News interview with Chris Wallace, Cain was asked whether he supported the right of displaced Palestinians to return to Israel. Appearing to have no idea what Wallace was talking about, he responded that he supported it because he felt Israel would have no problem with it - showing profound ignorance of Israel's long-standing hostility to the "right of return."
And how would Cain solve the problem of illegal immigration? He wants to emulate the Great Wall of China on our southern border. Cain's wall would be a "20-foot wall, barbed wire, electrified on the top" with a "moat" on the other side. And yes, Cain would "put those alligators in that moat!"
Cain would put oil and coal companies in charge of EPA regulations. He says he would create a special "regulatory reduction commission" to cut down environmental regulations, and would appoint industry insiders, including the CEO of Shell because Shell has been "abused" by the EPA.
Back when Donald Trump was promoting "birtherism," Cain was on board with that. During a March interview with a Florida conservative group, the Shark Tank, Cain said Trump's birth certificate allegations against President Obama weren't "off base" and that he hadn't studied the issue enough to have an opinion, but that Obama should "prove he was born in the United States of America."
In fact Cain believes that Obama was "raised in Kenya." Perhaps he has been misled by his fellow Fox employee, Mike Huckabee, who claimed that Obama witnessed the Kenyan Mau Mau revolution.
In light of all of this, perhaps it isn't surprising that Cain opposes the minimum wage, wants to defund Planned Parenthood and privatize Medicare, and believes Social Security is a "scam."
So what's next for this CEO-turned-lobbyist-turned-alligator-in-moat-enthusiast? Probably not the White House.
The fist thing I did was look up info on Ryan Ebersole.
http://peoplesworld.org/ryan-c-ebersole (http://peoplesworld.org/ryan-c-ebersole)
It looks like he's a liberal just like you XO. Why would you post something written by someone other and a liberal? Of course you wouldn't do that.
Ryan Ebersole is a graduate student in counseling psychology at the University of Southern Mississippi. Having finished his undergraduate degree at the University of Evansville in Indiana, high school in the Fort Worth area of Texas and pre-K in Puerto Rico, and having been born in Florida, he has experienced several areas of the county.
While in Indiana, he worked at a social work agency for HIV+ clients, as well as a low-income community drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility - both of which have caused him to take a great interest in the stigmatized and the disadvantaged in our society. After finishing his graduate degree next year, he hopes to serve these groups, as well as continue political activism, especially for LGBT and health care rights, on the side.
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Ebersole being a liberal does not make Cain smarter.
Cain is irrelevant. He will not be the GOP candidate.
He will never be president.
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Herman Cain’s peculiar politics
by: Ryan C. Ebersole
July 25 2011
tags: ultra right, Republicans, elections, GOP, op-ed
cain
Besides being the only minority in the GOP presidential field, Herman Cain also stands out from his competitors in another way: his lack of political experience, which Cain cites as an advantage. In fact, although he is relatively new to the public, he has been involved in national politics since at least 1996.
Cain's background seems to be consistent with the "American Dream." ...So what's next for this CEO-turned-lobbyist-turned-alligator-in-moat-enthusiast? Probably not the White House.
So.........
What is not to like?