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Title: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 12, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
....almost

With the dreadful economic & unemployment #'s (specfically those folks who have simply stopped looking for a job), the continuing dept spiral, the awful "new normal" GDP #'s, the millions who have lost both their insurance and doctor, (that they were promised they could keep), AlQeda's big brother ISIS now reigning terror over what was once a somewhat stabilized region, and from all current indications still marching forward, despite our new military footprint of air-power alone, and now with the whole Ebola debacle, and how the Government, in particular the CDC, has been fumbling that, like a high-school back-up running back.  Must be hard having such responsibility as Community Organizer & Chief

Probably wasn't the smartest thing to say, when he proclaimed how its really his policies up for election, in a month
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 13, 2014, 08:13:50 AM
Why should anyone care about what you pretend to feel, you idiot?
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Plane on October 13, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
  I think he is quoting that George C. Scott movie.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 13, 2014, 10:22:25 AM
I almost feel sorry for Obama....

SIRS....the  American people are very tired of this Bozo.
The guy has record disapproval in the Gallup Poll.
Obama is the worst of the worst!

http://blogs.rollcall.com/white-house/record-disapproval-for-obama-in-gallup-poll-approval-rating/
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 13, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
I find it far easier to get sick and tired of the idiotic posts that you guys are always putting here.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 13, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
SOP....run away from the point being made, and try to argue something altogether something else.....with the added knee jerk derogatory thrown in.  Bravo....your consistency is to be applauded
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 13, 2014, 12:34:22 PM
I find it far easier to get sick and tired of the idiotic posts that you guys are always putting here.

XO are you denying Obama has horrid poll numbers?
And it's not Bush's fault either.
Stand up and be a man....Obama is a disaster!
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 13, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
In every way manageable.  Again, I almost feel sorry for him.  Our 1st Black President, and he even makes Carter and Hoover look good in comparison.  Some substantial rewriting of history is going to be required to fix this
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Plane on October 13, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
   Isn't it possible to find something that XO would like to see once in a while?


    I am not being an accuser, I feel that I share responsibility for Our site having a severe dearth of liberals.

     History is just about to happen in the coming election , XO will have an insight different than ours.

          That is valuable .
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 13, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
Suggestions?   We could find some movies we all may enjoy.  My all time favorite flick is Sound of Music.  My favorite song is Sammy Davis' I've Got to Be Me.  I'm game to find something we could commentate positively with xo about
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 13, 2014, 03:50:42 PM
I enjoy XO's travel experiences....
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 13, 2014, 04:13:08 PM
Absolutely.  Lots to gather from that

My favorite place in this country is Yosemite.  My favorite place that I've been to outside of this country is the Tobago Cays.  The place I'd most like to visit in this country, is believe it or not, Washington DC.  The history alone, would make the visit so worthwhile.  Outside of this country......Probably Austria or Ireland as a country, and definately Normandy as a specific location
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 13, 2014, 04:23:38 PM
The Sound of Music. AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

Mary Poppins with Nazis!

I have seen that thing at least a dozen times. If I see it again, horrible, terrible  things might happen.
It is the "It's a Small World After All" of films.

McCabe and Mrs Miller is a favorite film of mine. I like all the Lord of the Rings films.
Silent Running, Cast Away, The Caine Mutiny, and Alejandro Jodorowsy's  El Topo and Santa Sangre are favorite films. I have a lot of favorite films, but the only musical I recall enjoying much was West Side Story. I detest Broadway Musicals as a rule. They are so sappy.

When the last of the Hobbit films comes out, I will wait a year and buy all three and have an all day adventure in Middle Earth. That would be about 18 hours in all.

The best TV series has to be Breaking Bad, but Six Feet Under and The Sopranos were also good.

I never realized how great TV shows could be without those damned commercials until I got some shows on DVDs.

There is some excellent camera work in Breaking Bad.The acting is excellent.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 13, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
I hear Breaking Bad is VERY good.  As is House of Cards.  At some point I made buy the series on DVD or NetFlix.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 13, 2014, 04:33:10 PM
Mexico has really great scenery.


Take highway 57 north from Mexico City to the border, and north of Matehuala, take the turnoff towards Tampico. It is a beautiful drive, and you are descending about 4000 feet, so there is more and more oxygen in the air by the time you get to Linares, where they have the greatest orange juice ever, freshly squeezed.

The Tamazunchale Highway is also a terrific trip, so is the highway from Mexico city to Veracruz through Orizaba.

In the Dominican Republic, the North Coast Highway from Puerto Plata through Sosua, Cabarete, Rio San Juan and Sanchez and on to Las Terrenas follows the coast except when it cuts through some mountains.  Another favorite is the highway from Barahona to Pedernales, on the Haitian border, through mountains and along the coast spectacular views of the Caribbean.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 13, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
XO would you feel safe being a tourist in Mexico these days?
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Plane on October 13, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
   Travel is the best part of my Navy experience.
   The Caribbean is delightful to the eye and ear.
    Africa is loaded with the interesting and strange.
    Europe is packed with history and art.

      I would go back to Panama, Kenya , Italy and Spain Bermuda , Bahamas and Puerto Rico on any slight excuse.

      Skip Sudan , it might be interesting , but it isn't safe.

      I haven't traveled much in recent years, perhaps in my next phase of life.
     
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 14, 2014, 06:12:25 AM
I would feel safe in some parts of Mexico. Not Juarez or Michoacan, but in the parts where the drug mafia does not rule. All the tourist destinations: Acapulco, Cancun, Merida, the Yucatan are safe. Mexico City is vast, and if you do not look like a tourist, you can easily blend in.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 14, 2014, 06:28:05 AM
House of Cards has been hard for me to get interested in. The acting is good, it is the story that is rather muddled and uninteresting.Perhaps I was not in the mood.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 15, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
Tacking back towards the point of the topic, I also feel sorry for the GOP, and the citizenry as well, in that given the current circumstances surrouding this President, his policies, the mounthing threat of ISIS, the mounting dysfunction of federal agencies, like the CDC, and the Democrat owned Unaffordable Care Act, which completely dismantled this country's health system, while increasing premiums and unnecessary add-ons to new policies.....given all that, if the GOP can't win back the Senate, its a sad state of affairs for not just the GOP, but the country as a whole.

2012 was a Republican Presidential race to lose.  Obama didn't win, the GOP ran a poor campaign and lost it.  Literally grasping a loss from the jaws of victory  Yes, there was the MSM in Obama's back pocket, and Candy Crowly bailing out the President in a nationally televised debate, but the Romney camp lost their focus, and allowed the MSM & the left to portray him as someone who's....just the same as Obama, out of touch with normal run of the mill Americans.

It is absolutely possible that Republicans could do the same thing in 2014....take a winning formula of complete and utter disatisfaction with the Democrat policies that have been implimented, and start to get distracted in trying to defend social issues of gay marriage, abortion, and minimum wage.  All are perfectly valid issues, but the focus needs to be on what's currently happening in this country, and WHY we're having all these issues.  And hint, it's not that the GOP isn't helping, or even compromising.  In fact, the left has no clue what compromise is.  Stay focused, and on topic.....debt, economy, job market, exponential growth in government & bureaucracy....and OBAMACARE
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 15, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
SIRS the GOP will pick up seats in BOTH Houses
of Congress in the 2014 elections and most likely re-take the Senate.
We will then control 2 of 3 branches of Gvt.
Which might mean we can slow down the destruction
of our country the Democrats are trying to pull off.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 15, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
2010 effectively stopped the Democrat reign of destruction.....though the damage was already done
2014 if what you say comes to fruition, will send a message that the country is fed up with these socialist-like policies and piss poor leadership

What the GOP absolutely needs to have in place are specific plans, and bills, passed, and sitting on Obama's desk, for the next 2 years.  Let him veto them willy nilly, but the arguement can no longer be credibly made that the GOP is the party of no.  Perhaps a calling card of the "Party of no more" would work
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 16, 2014, 08:28:40 AM
Republicans have no chance of electing a president. They have nothing going for them,

Nothing could benefit this country more that the goddamn republican'ts becoming E X T I N C T.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 16, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
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Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 16, 2014, 11:30:49 PM
]The Republican'ts do stupid stuff.

Really stupid stuff.

Like mongering wars.

Obama won the elections both times, because McCain was a fool, Palin was a dunce, Romney was a fatcat, and Ryan was a crypto Fascist.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 17, 2014, 02:58:54 PM
Your opinion of "mongering" is pretty limited to your predisposition of simply not liking war, and judging purely on a partisan basis.  Demowon'ts monger just as many wars, but apparently get a pass, since they have the correct letter after their name.  There's a vast and credible amount of justification for the recent wars in Iraq, that you continue to callously ignore, but no surprise there.  And what made those wars pertinent, was that we gave ourselves clear objectives, the means to achieve those objectives, and didn't hold back, even if it wasn't politically savvy.  Can't be said of what the hell we're currently doing in Iraq & Syria, now can it   
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 17, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
The root cause of what is happening in Iraq is a direct result of Juniorbush's stupid war and the utter incompetence of how it was fought.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 17, 2014, 05:14:06 PM
No, the root cause is islamic-fascism, beling allowed to grow unchecked, due to a perverted sense of Political Correctness.  It had been checked, to a degree under, Bush.  Now it's being allowed to mutate into a regional virus, thanks to present policy
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 18, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
Yeah, right. Soon I hear that the Muslim Brotherhood will demand Oklahoma.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Plane on October 18, 2014, 01:25:08 AM
Do you think that the Muslim Brotherhood has reasonable demands?


  How about IS?
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 18, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
Yeah, right. Soon I hear that the Muslim Brotherhood will demand Oklahoma.

Your transition from Professor Literal to Doctor Deflection, is quite seamless.  What does Oklahoma have anything what-so-ever to do with the Muslim Brotherhood specifically, or even radical Islam in general??     :o
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 18, 2014, 03:51:44 PM
Couldn't come up with a cogent response?  I guess we shouldn't be surprised
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 18, 2014, 06:58:59 PM
There is never any point to coming up with a response that you might like. Nothing I ever say is ever acceptable to you. Of course, my purpose here is not to reward you by telling you crap that you will like to hear.

The Muslim Brotherhood is not out to seize Oklahoma or anything else in this country. The whole fanatical reactionary Muslim movement is nothing but a reaction to modernity that threatens a way of life that is essentially stagnant and not capable of sustaining itself.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 18, 2014, 07:36:29 PM
It has nothing to do with what I'd like or wouldn't like.  It has everything to do with you making some sense.  Like the idiocy of thinking the Muslim Brotherhood is strategizing to seize Oklahoma, or any other state in the country, for that matter.  So why make it??
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 19, 2014, 11:40:32 AM
I was simply taking your moronic statement to its logical extreme.

Why do I do such things?

To remind you that you are intellectually challenged in hopes that you will seek out a helper monkey.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Plane on October 19, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
I was simply taking your moronic statement to its logical extreme.


IS is far ahead of you, they plainly state that anything less than Islam dominating all of the Earth is unrighteous.

 My spellchecker is not up to coping with the Islamic State, every time  that " is" follows "IS" it asks me to delete the repeated word.

   So Bill Clinton was right!
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 19, 2014, 01:50:55 PM
I was simply taking your moronic statement to its logical extreme.

Why do I do such things?

To remind you that you are intellectually challenged in hopes that you will seek out a helper monkey.

lol....see what I mean?....you make no sense.  My point had nothing to do, nor would it have had, relating to the MB taking over Oklahoma.  That was all you, and had no logic to it at all.  Like I've recommended many a time, try actually arguing points being made, vs those that never have.  You'll come across far more credible and educated
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 19, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
Yeah, sure.

Like my goal in life is to be credible to you.
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 19, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Again, trying to make this about me, when I could care less.  It's not about what you'd say that I may like or wouldn't like.  Xo, you have 3 pathological traits when it comes to "debating" politics, when its with people that don't agree with you:

1) Deflect, it's your 1st responder, start arguing points that were never made, distract, present irrational/illogical/hyperbolic extremes, then hammer on them, as if that's the supposed point or issue being discussed
This would also include your perpetual effort to make me your go to response, when unable to support your own claims/accusations.  Like commenting that you're not here to try to make me happy or that you become credible to me

2) Literalism, I know, that's not a real word, but it's you taking some point being made rhetorically, and literally apply it or argue it.  Of course, that's then leads back to the above effort at deflection, where you focus on that, because it makes no sense....which it wouldn't.  Perfect examples being the recent discussion on "open borders", or when taxation arguments come up, and you infer that the other side's argument is to abolish all taxes.  Or when the gun issue comes up, where you tend to infer that the opponents' argument is that everyone be made to have/carry a gun.
 
3) Insult, the knee jerk attempt to make every response some mean-spirited, demeaning, if not hateful response.  I mean, you even do it to plane, of all people.  Heaven forbid a conservative Christian republican were to address you.  You can be just as hateful & vile, in your responses, as you claim Coulter is

You can generally find either 1 in one of your responses, if not all 3, the latest examples being in this thread alone. 

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Try going back to where your thought process derailed with the MB injection.  I realize that initially it was some weak effort to pin the current Middle East debacle, specifically Iraq, Syria & ISIS, & blaming it on Bush (no surprise there)

But when I credibly was referencing actual points regarding Radical Islam, as the source (not Democrats, not even Obama, only that current policies have exacerbated it), out of no where came the MB & Oklahoma nonsense.   :o   If that was supposed to be a "logical extreme" to my position, you didn't bother to demonstrate how.  It's like a dog seeing a squirrel........."SQUIRREL".

Seriously, TRY TO MAKE AN EFFORT......and no, not an effort to please me, in any way, simply to make sense of what you're trying to claim.  Take the Oklahoma deflection, and try to explain, how on earth, that's a logical connection to the point I was making about Radical Islam's growing #'s & root source of terrorism, as exemplified by ISIS

Or not, and just go back to 1), 2), and/or 3)  Doesn't matter to me.  Just trying to help you out
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 19, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
I have zero pathological anythings.

You always claim that the stupid things you say were not the same as the stupid things you meant.

I deflect nothing.

Another  dumb thing you do is you claim that what you said cannot be taken literally. It is some sort of mystic metaphor. If you cannot speak clearly, just go away and quit saying stupid shit.

Conservative Republican Christian? That would be "Christians For Less Government himself.

I am not at all like Coulter, as I am not profiting from hateful diatribes. I am responding to her hateful diatribes. She tends to say really hateful shit whjen she has yet another of her hateful, worthless books to peddle,
Title: Re: I almost feel sorry for Obama....
Post by: sirs on October 20, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
I have zero pathological anythings.

You always claim that the stupid things you say were not the same as the stupid things you meant.

See what I mean.....1)  You deflect, practically every time you argue.  I mean exactly what I say.  But since it apparently can't be refuted, you make up something I never meant, and try to make that the "stupid thing" to rebut. 


I deflect nothing.

Oh contraire, I've been providing example after example after example


Another  dumb thing you do is you claim that what you said cannot be taken literally.

I never said anything couldn't be taken literally.  I simply pointed out how ludicrous the effort is..... to take a rhetorical point being made, or a concept, such as tax reform, and try to apply some literal extreme that's NOT being argued....again, I realize why, because when you make it literal, the point literally becomes ludicrous, like implying that 2nd amendment supporters want everyone to carry a firearm.  It's not about metaphors, or anything so "mystic", its simply about making logical sense

 
I am not at all like Coulter, as I am not profiting from hateful diatribes.

Again, quite the contrary.  You're as hateful in your diatribes as you profess her to be, as she's responding to what she sees, just the same as you apparently do.  It's not her fault she's getting payed.