Obama shouldn't be doing this

[BT]

Gonna have to side with the conservative minded-Constitutionally focused justices on this one.

You mean the liberal justices who felt limitations of the 4th was wrong?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I support the use of scanners if it makes it less likely I get blown up in the air. I am certain I do not want that to happen.

I do not support the use of scanners just to give sirs a hard time. sirs give himself an ample amount of grief with his silly quibbling

But is does not matter one bit whether I support it or not: the decision has been made to use scanners or an alternative pat down and I will never be asked to approve or disapprove in any way.

So I fail to see why sirs or anyone else should hold me to blame  for the use of scanners. I did not think up the use of scanners, was not consulted about their use, and simply would personally prefer to spend ten seconds walking through a scanner than enduring a pat down. I do not see how it affects anyone else if I decide to do this.

[R.R.]

Nobody cares about what you want to do, XO. You've never even been through the new scanners or experienced the groping. So what you want to do or don't want is meaningless. They could take you in the bathroom and go Abner Louima on you and I really could care less. Not that much anyway. I really could care less if you go through the x-ray and somebody sees your penile implant. What I don't want is anybody in my family being looked at nude in a x-ray machine or being fondled by strangers. People that are suspicious are not being taken aside and put through these machines. Everybody is being put through these machines, and that is wrong. 

[Xavier_Onassis]

I went through scanners on a recent trip from Miami to Honolulu, twice. No problem. No groping.

I resent the dorks who tell me that in some way by tolerating the scanner that I am "supporting" it. But I am no more supporting scanners than those of you who pay income taxes even though they think that the tax or the rates are unfair are supporting the IRS or the tax laws.

When I stop at a stop sign that I deem is unnecessary, I am not supporting its placement: I am simply doing what is required because it is easier than running the sign and risking an accident or a traffic ticket.

I am not supporting or rejecting the use of scanners. I just prefer being safe to being less safe, and I do not believe that anyone looking at my scanner image is doing it for any purpose other than doing their job.

[R.R.]

I resent the dorks who tell me that in some way by tolerating the scanner that I am "supporting" it.

You are supporting it. You claimed that a bomb would blow up an airplane without it. And that's a ridiculous comment. Most of the people being harassed and pulled aside after going through one of these scanners is a senior citizen with some type of implant. And then the senior gets their private parts touched violating their constitutional rights. It has not stopped a single terrorist. The only reason you vociferously support it is because your precious jackass, Obama, proposed doing this.

[sirs]

Gonna have to side with the conservative minded-Constitutionally focused justices on this one.

You mean the liberal justices who felt limitations of the 4th was wrong?

Naaa, the conservative Justices who were able to grasp how this was not anywhere close to unreasonable searches, per the 4th. 

[Xavier_Onassis]

If I were NOT supporting it, what difference would that make?

None at all.

I merely insist that if a plane were to blow up as a result of NOT using scanners, all the ratbag right would immediately insist that scanners be used, and that anyone who refused to step through the scanner would deserve to be frisked most annoyingly. And then accused of not being a patriot.

You cannot blame me because someone else came up with the scanners and the requirement to use them. I did not invent the scanner, I did not place scanners in airports, and I scan no one.

What do you think I should do? Insist on a pat down, and scream bloody murder at the TSA guy? Throw a tantrum in the airport by hollering the 4th Amendment at all concerned?

I can say that I feel safer if they are used. It has nothing whatever to do with President Obama. I have a right to feel safer. You have no right to say that anyone is being scanned because I say I feel safer, because this is simply not true.

There is not one thing that any of us can do about the use of scanners. We will never be given a vote on this.

[sirs]

If I were NOT supporting it, what difference would that make?

None at all.  I merely insist that if a plane were to blow up as a result of NOT using scanners, all the ratbag right would immediately insist that scanners be used, and that anyone who refused to step through the scanner would deserve to be frisked most annoyingly.

Bzzzzzz.....WRONG.  The Constitution actually means something to the "ratbag right", as opposed to the lunatic left

[Xavier_Onassis]

Everyone here has seen the sort of panic 9-11 generated. Another airliner downed by a bomb would do result in no less, and perhaps more.

Again, it makes NO DIFFERENCE to anyone else whether I walk through a scanner or not.

[Plane]

What is the best availible alternative?

1.)Kill and cripple as many terrorists as possible?Break the orginisation of terrorists up and imprison , kill or impoverish terrorists into helplessness?

2.)Help and enrich the impoverished and fill them with such satisfaction and love that they refuse to become terrorists?

3.)Improve security so much that it becomes entirely impossible for any wepon or explosive of any sort or amount to be moved onto an airplane , bus or train?

4.) Put up with a certain rate of loss ?  There are fewer aircraft of any type lost to terrorist attack any year includeing 2001 than were lost to accident every year before from 1960 to 2000.



You don't need to pick just one, we are more or less doing all of these things more of one sometimes more of another, another time.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The attempt is to prevent ALL acts of terrorism, but it really ends up being the fourth option, as it is actually impossible to prevent every conceivable way in which a plane might be blown up.

There are ways that neither the terrorists or the TSA has even thought of yet, after all.

Al Qaeda is not motivated by poverty. Perhaps some Palestinians are. But Al Qaeda are mostly middle class fanatics, just like that wacko Kansas Preacher and his family that picket soldiers' funerals are middle class fanatics, fortunately less dangerous