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The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« on: January 09, 2011, 04:49:49 PM »
Anti-latino, and populated with "birthers", Arizona has become the nations nut-job state.

>>There has been a rush to determine what had prompted the massacre in a state that has been roiled by incendiary debate over illegal immigrants and has also become ground zero for those questioning Obama's birthplace.

"It's not a good atmosphere right now, though I'm not saying that's what prompted this," said University of Arizona law professor Andy Silverman, who knew Roll well. "But things in Arizona are very tense, and we've become the incubator for a lot of immigration-related matters and now for the birthers, too."

Giffords' fellow Arizona congressman, Republican Jeff Flake, recalled that she was unfazed after her Tucson office had been targeted by vandals who broke a window on the eve of last year's health care vote.

During an interview with MSNBC after her office was vandalized, Giffords noted that her district was on Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" list of targeted congressional races. And it had been reported that in 2009, Roll and his wife received 24-hour protection for at least a month after receiving death threats after certifying a multimillion-dollar lawsuit illegal immigrants had filed against an Arizona rancher.

Palin, in a statement, offered "sincere condolences" to Giffords and the other victims.

"On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice," she said.

As information about Loughner began to emerge later in the day — including online videos and comments posted under the same name as the Tucson native and Mountain View High School graduate — those in Arizona and Washington cautioned against jumping to conclusions.
Some online statements attributed to Loughner suggest an obsession with the nation's currency system and with grammar. In one online video posted under Loughner's name, an American flag is burned.

"It has been a difficult time politically for the country, and I'm sure bloggers and others will go crazy laying blame — on gun rights, on Tea Party people — trying to figure out who's fault it is," said Randy Graf, a Republican who served in the state Legislature with Giffords and lost to her in her first run for Congress.

"As we hear more about the alleged shooter, it seems he may be more like a person with problems whom you can't control," said Graf. He said that despite their political differences, he and Giffords "got along great."<<

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/09/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 04:58:36 PM »
Two things are certain:
1. Giffords and Loughner will both become footnotes
2. Those who launch diatribes against vitriol in political discourse will use vitriol in their arguments.

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 07:05:52 PM »
Any 1/2 competent person comparing Arizona to Massachusetts would have to conclude that Massachusetts has a screw loose. Kennedy, Kerry and Frank are all examples of a nutty state of confusion with Massachusetts. Not to mention BSB is a raving lunatic too. What is in the water in Massachusetts anyway?

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 12:46:31 AM »
The opinions of a psycotic ought to be considered as if random, they don't depend on reality or logic do they?

This felow was rejected by the USArmy and suspended by his colledge.

Now everyone is trying to tie him to their opponents.

He is damaged goods and won't ever be welcome in any quarter.

Do we pity his victims more , his victims were not so miserable .

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 03:02:33 AM »
One thing is certain:

What you first hear, and therefore react to, usually isn't accurate.

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 02:17:08 PM »
I think it is ridiculous to blame this on anyone other than Loughner himself, and he is insane and not responsible for his insane acts.

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to enable the police to lock people like Loughner up, and gun control laws would not work, because there are too many guns already in this country.

This is unfortunate.

I note that Canada is as free a country as the US, and they never have had a political assassination like this, so perhaps we should try to be more like the Canadians.
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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 03:11:39 PM »
I think it is ridiculous to blame this on anyone other than Loughner himself, and he is insane and not responsible for his insane acts.

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to enable the police to lock people like Loughner up, and gun control laws would not work, because there are too many guns already in this country.

This is unfortunate.

I note that Canada is as free a country as the US, and they never have had a political assassination like this, so perhaps we should try to be more like the Canadians.


Since you like France and Canada so much, why don't you move there, and live with people that more closely resemble your thinking. And leave America alone to run things the way we have for the last 200+ years.

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Re: The Nut-Job State of Arizona
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 01:28:43 AM »
YOU have not run this country for even a day, idiot, and we can feel fortunate about this.

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