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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2007, 07:15:26 PM »
in the movie snatch and hot fuzz travelers are not well thought of.
i think it`s not a just the U.S. .

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2007, 08:16:09 PM »
In Spain and Hungary, Gypsies are admired for their music and dancing. Other than in these places, Gypsies and Travelers are generally acknowledged to be con men and ripoff artists everywhere they live.

I knew a Romani Gypsy in Aberdeen, WA once, who was in a little theater group with me. He had put himself through school and become an accountant. He was a nice guy who told me that he had to have an unlisted number, because distant Gypsy relatives would look him up and try to rip him off, telling him that Uncle This or Cousin That was dying of cancer or some other awful disease and he needed to contribute.

According th him, Gypsies in his family tended to rip one another off more often than non-Gypsies.
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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2007, 09:03:47 PM »
I can`t tell how many time I hear people blame onething or another about family
it`s not just gypies
all families got somebody crappy or stupid
I know a guy who got a 2nd and 3rd mortgage took the money,leaving the debt for his wife and daughter to deal with.
I know parents who on purpose made their kids not graduate so they won`t be above the parents.

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2007, 11:35:16 PM »
>>No, the point is more what's civil and what's not.<<

No, the point is the word is to be buried. People who are civil doen't use the word NOW. So if someone says "this word is forbidden," that implies a penalty.

>>That doesn't equate to advocating that it be prevented from being said, or made illegal to say it.<<

You may not, but as you said earlier, the people (liberal/communists) who support things like the fairness doctrine, hate crimes and politically correct speech certainly do plan to have some sort of penalty. If they don't, then what's the point?


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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2007, 03:18:14 AM »
>>No, the point is more what's civil and what's not.<<

No, the point is the word is to be buried. People who are civil doen't use the word NOW. So if someone says "this word is forbidden," that implies a penalty.

*snicker*.....I hate to tell you this Rich, but you can't bury a word, or a phrase, or a thought, or a feeling.  What "penalty" would you be referring to if someone where to dare utter such??  Again, scorn & ridicule are perfectly acceptable responses, as they have no effect outside of making someone feel uncomfortable, perhaps even guilty for saying such.  So, what tangible penalty are you alluding to??


>>That doesn't equate to advocating that it be prevented from being said, or made illegal to say it.<<

You may not, but as you said earlier, the people (liberal/communists) who support things like the fairness doctrine, hate crimes and politically correct speech certainly do plan to have some sort of penalty. If they don't, then what's the point?

That's what I'm trying to find out.  No one's telling anyone they can't say anything.  Part of the 1st amendment right we have though is the ability to criticize critical speech.  That's NOT the same as advocating that someone can't say something asanine, simply that it can be critizied for being asanine.  See the diff?
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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2007, 11:57:46 AM »
Is there something stopping you from using the n* word? I mean, all that is stopping you is that you are afraid?

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2007, 12:01:15 PM »
The travelers in Miami, I hear, live in North Carolina, and specialize in home repair scams, preferably with elderly women. I have not met any of them. But I doubt that being accused of being Gypsies is anything that bothers them much.

South Carolina. Just north of Greenville, near the NC border.
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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2007, 12:03:21 PM »
In Spain and Hungary, Gypsies are admired for their music and dancing. Other than in these places, Gypsies and Travelers are generally acknowledged to be con men and ripoff artists everywhere they live.

In Austria as well. There are many very good Gypsy restaurants in Austria, complete with live music and dancing during the meal.
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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2007, 12:47:46 PM »
>>What "penalty" would you be referring to if someone where to dare utter such?? [ ... ] So, what tangible penalty are you alluding to??<<

You really don't pay attention do you. This isn't that hard to understand.

What's the penalty for running afoul of the Fairness Doctrine? Having your FCC license taken, correct? What's the penalty for hate crimes? More time added to your sentence. Now, what's the penalty for calling someone a nigger? Today, nothing. However, given the liberal/communist proclivity for banning thoughts and words, it's doesn't seem much of a leap to assume a penalty is likely in the future.

Is that clear enough for you?

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2007, 01:51:12 PM »
Your speculating Rich.  This isn't about the Fairness Doctrine or the FCC.  It's about a completely symbolic (read nothing tangible) act, that carry's no legslative weight in any sense of the word.  So, there are no tangilble substantive repercussions on the table, as it relates to "burying offensive words".  This is all symbolism over substance, so I'm not sure what your beef is, since I, a rabid supporter of the 1st amendment see no problem with this symbolic act, since it is in no way is substantively preventing anyone from spewing garbage.

I mean, Brass was all over himself claiming how Bush had basically declared war, from the pulpit, on anyone who wasn't a Christian,.....minus of course ANY actual validity, quotes, or truth to the accusation.  That's nearly as offensive as some of the personal & derogatory terms being considered needing to be buried.  You don't see me wanting that garbage prevented.  You see me showing it to be the garbage that it is

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2007, 03:36:47 PM »
>>This isn't about the Fairness Doctrine or the FCC.<<

You brought up the Fairness Doctrine.

I'm done going around in circles with you on this. I'm sure my point was clear for anyone willing to see it.

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Re: Mock funeral to 'bury' offensive words
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2007, 04:11:46 PM »
>>This isn't about the Fairness Doctrine or the FCC.<<

You brought up the Fairness Doctrine.

To actually bring a tangible example of the 1st amendment being trampled upon into the discussion, vs mere speculation, which is even more than this thread of a "mock funeral" would add.  You're the one appearing to imply serious repercussions if such a funeral were allowed to go uncriticized, minus any credible references, claims, or examples.


I'm done going around in circles with you on this. I'm sure my point was clear for anyone willing to see it.

Ummm, if you say so     ;)
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