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Michael Tee

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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2007, 03:34:44 PM »
sirs, I never even said that ALL politicians were bought and sold, so BT is trying the exact same shit on me as you did, putting the word ALL in my mouth to shoot down something I never said.    I will concede that both of you may have been trying out a rhetorical device.  It's a poor use of rhetoric, but, point taken.

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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 04:48:19 PM »
No, actually Tee the AMBE was being applied by you when you kept claiming I had to mean ALL military, when I referenced your utter contempt for the U.S. military.  So, as I said, not surprising you're trying to have it both ways. 
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2007, 06:27:03 PM »
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No, just the ones whose positions oddly enough seem to benefit the same ultra-rich, ultra-conservative "benefactors" whose interests they all too obviously serve.

Do you feel the same way about ultra-rich ultra liberal benefactors?

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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2007, 07:29:50 PM »
<<Do you feel the same way about ultra-rich ultra liberal benefactors?>>

Fair question, the answer of course is "NO" because the liberal benefactors are advocating for positions such as peace and social justice which are of no personal benefit to them, but are purely altruistic.  The ultra-rich conservatives are just a bunch of selfish, greedy bastards trying to protect their (usually) inherited wealth and don't possess collectively a single microgram of altruism.

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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2007, 07:40:31 PM »
So my assessment was mostly on target. If a representative holds a position with which you disagree then they are beholden to evil, yet you have no problem with a liberal  oligarch that believes as you do buying representatives who will vote as they are told.

Seems there is a disconnect in there somewhere.


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Re: Matthew Dowd: "Iraq's a Mistake and the People Want Out"
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2007, 07:47:50 PM »
If I am correct that conservatives are greedy selfish bastards who don't give a shit for the poor and the oppressed, and that liberals are altruistic people who are willing to spend from their own resources and the public purse to better the lives of the poor and the oppressed, then I would say that conservative politicians who do the bidding of conservative donors are bad guys and liberal politicians who do the bidding of liberal donors are good guys.

Where is the disconnect?  If I am Adolf Hitler's right-hand-man, I'm a bad guy and if I'm Albert Schweitzer's right-hand-man, I'm a good guy.  You think a good man can serve a bad master?  Think again.