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« on: November 14, 2007, 10:13:35 AM »
Anti-Bush Sign Has Bridge World in an Uproar

From left, Jill Levin, Jill Meyers, Debbie Rosenberg and Irina Levitina of the Venice Cup championship team in Shanghai.

   By STEPHANIE STROM
Published: November 14, 2007

In the genteel world of bridge, disputes are usually handled quietly and rarely involve issues of national policy. But in a fight reminiscent of the brouhaha over an anti-Bush statement by Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks in 2003, a team of women who represented the United States at the world bridge championships in Shanghai last month is facing sanctions, including a yearlong ban from competition, for a spur-of-the-moment protest.

At issue is a crudely lettered sign, scribbled on the back of a menu, that was held up at an awards dinner and read, ?We did not vote for Bush.?

By e-mail, angry bridge players have accused the women of ?treason? and ?sedition.?

?This isn?t a free-speech issue,? said Jan Martel, president of the United States Bridge Federation, the nonprofit group that selects teams for international tournaments. ?There isn?t any question that private organizations can control the speech of people who represent them.?

Not so, said Danny Kleinman, a professional bridge player, teacher and columnist. ?If the U.S.B.F. wants to impose conditions of membership that involve curtailment of free speech, then it cannot claim to represent our country in international competition,? he said by e-mail.

Ms. Martel said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women?s title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors.

The players have been stunned by the reaction to what they saw as a spontaneous gesture, ?a moment of levity,? said Gail Greenberg, the team?s nonplaying captain and winner of 11 world championships.

?What we were trying to say, not to Americans but to our friends from other countries, was that we understand that they are questioning and critical of what our country is doing these days, and we want you to know that we, too, are critical,? Ms. Greenberg said, stressing that she was speaking for herself and not her six teammates.

The controversy has gone global, with the French team offering support for its American counterparts.

?By trying to address these issues in a nonviolent, nonthreatening and lighthearted manner,? the French team wrote in by e-mail to the federation?s board and others, ?you were doing only what women of the world have always tried to do when opposing the folly of men who have lost their perspective of reality.?

The proposed sanctions would hurt the team?s playing members financially. ?I earn my living from bridge, and a substantial part of that from being hired to compete in high-level competitions,? Debbie Rosenberg, a team member, said. ?So being barred would directly affect much of my ability to earn a living.?

A hearing is scheduled this month in San Francisco, where thousands of players will be gathered for the Fall North American Bridge Championships. It will determine whether displaying the sign constitutes conduct unbecoming a federation member.

Three players? Hansa Narasimhan, JoAnna Stansby and Jill Meyers ? have expressed regret that the action offended some people. The federation has proposed a settlement to Ms. Greenberg and the three other players, Jill Levin, Irina Levitina and Ms. Rosenberg, who have not made any mollifying statements.

It calls for a one-year suspension from federation events, including the World Bridge Olympiad next year in Beijing; a one-year probation after that suspension; 200 hours of community service ?that furthers the interests of organized bridge?; and an apology drafted by the federation?s lawyer.

It would also require them to write a statement telling ?who broached the idea of displaying the sign, when the idea was adopted, etc.?

Alan Falk, a lawyer for the federation, wrote the four team members on Nov. 6, ?I am instructed to press for greater sanction against anyone who rejects this compromise offer.?

Ms. Greenberg said she decided to put up the sign in response to questions from players from other countries about American interrogation techniques, the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues.

?There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture,? Ms. Greenberg said. ?I can?t tell you it was an overwhelming amount, but there were several specific comments, and there wasn?t the same warmth you usually feel at these events.?

Ms. Rosenberg said the team members intended the sign as a personal statement that demonstrated American values and noted that it was held up at the same time some team members were singing along to ?The Star-Spangled Banner? and waving small American flags.

?Freedom to express dissent against our leaders has traditionally been a core American value,? she wrote by e-mail. ?Unfortunately, the Bush brand of patriotism, where criticizing Bush means you are a traitor, seems to have penetrated a significant minority of U.S. bridge players.?

Through a spokesman, the other team members declined to discuss the matter. Ms. Narasimhan, Ms. Stansby and Ms. Meyers have been offered a different settlement agreement, but Ms. Martel declined to discuss it in detail.

Many of those offended by the sign do not consider the expressions of regret sufficient. ?I think an apology is kind of specious,? said Jim Kirkham, who has played in several bridge championships. ?It?s not that I don?t forgive them, but I still think they should be punished.?

Mr. Kirkham sits on the board of the American Contract Bridge League, which accounts for a substantial portion of the federation?s financing, Ms. Martel said, and has submitted a proposal that would cut the league?s support for the federation, one of two such proposals pending.

Robert S. Wolff, one of the country?s pre-eminent bridge players, who has served as an executive and board member of several bridge organizations, said that he understood that the women might have had a legal right to do what they did but that they had offended many people.

?While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn?t give anyone the right to criticize one?s leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event,? he wrote by e-mail.

David L. Anderson, a bridge player who supports the team, said it was common to see players at international tournaments sporting buttons bearing the date ?1-20-09,? when George W. Bush will hand off to a new president, as well as buttons reading ?Support Our Troops.?

?They don?t go after those people,? Mr. Anderson said.

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Re: More signs
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 12:18:37 PM »
It is amazing how many people do not have a clear understanding of what free speech is.


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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 02:38:42 PM »
Does this mean you agree with the USBF or the members who had the sign?
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 03:44:45 PM »
I guess we're supposed to shut up because the Chinese government doesn't like political dissent.  Nuts to the Chinese government.

 Statement Regarding Damage to USBF from Venice Cup Team Demonstration       PDF        Print        E-mail

The following statement was written by one member of the USBF Board of Directors and adopted by all of them:

Victory Ceremony Actions of US Venice Cup Winners (?VCW?)

It may be the case that the VCW did not intentionally act detrimentally to the USBF. But the act was in fact detrimental to The USBF.

1) The USBF has good reason to believe that the ACBL?s inclination to provide financial assistance to the USBF has substantially diminished as a result of the VCW action at the medal presentation. The ACBL has no contractual obligation to use its good offices to generate or funnel money to the USBF. Any financial assistance provided by the ACBL to the USBF is strictly voluntary and is predicated on the ACBL being satisfied that such support is in the best interest of the game of Contract Bridge and that of the ACBL membership.

2) The VCW have in no way acknowledged that the action has created a serious problem for the USBF. They instead have chosen to go on the offensive by extremely aggressive defensive actions, rather than simply acknowledging, ?We made a mistake. What can we do to rectify the situation?? In the vast majority of situations a party whose defined role is to represent another party has a fiduciary responsibility to represent the interests of the principal ahead of their own interests. In cases where an agent or other representative acts adversely to the interests of the principal, they may in fact be subject to legal action. Certainly, the principal has no obligation to allow said agents to represent them in the future.

3) Certain members of VCW have complained that the USBF apology to the WBF and the Chinese Contract Bridge Association for the VCW?s conduct was unwarranted. This reflects a complete disregard for the fact that the Chinese government, which does not exactly have a history of sympathetic views toward political dissent, provided the bulk of financial support for both the 2007 World Championship and the 2008 World Bridge Olympiad. Certainly, other sponsors such as Generali Group and Microsoft will not view as a positive development the hijacking of events which they supported financially as forums for political expression. Again, the VCW seem to view the interests of all other parties as entirely subordinate to their own, if they take them into account at all.

4) There have been a large number of e-mails, some pro the VCW, but more con. Again the USBF did not create the present controversy, this was done by the VCW entirely of their own volition and on their own responsibility.

5) The USBF is the body responsible for selecting the players and captains who will represent it. This representation is a privilege granted to those who in the judgment of the USBF will best represent it. When a player or captain fails to adhere to standards of behavior acceptable to the USBF, it is not at all clear that the USBF should allow that individual to represent it in the future. It is not the agent who determines acceptable standards of behavior, it is the principal.

6) No principal can provide an agent with a laundry list enumerating every conceivable proscribed activity; the agent is presumed to be guided by common sense. When an agent damages a principal by ill judged actions, intentionally or negligently, adverse consequences for the agent should come as no surprise.

7) This situation is not about free speech; it is about determining whether the USBF has a responsibility to its membership to impose sanctions on those who have acted contrary to the best interests of the organization and its members.

8) The USBF was formed to manage the process of selecting teams, players and pairs to represent the United States in World Bridge Federation and/or Olympic Games Competition. The mission was and is to select those individuals most qualified to be representatives. In order to be eligible for selection, a player must meet the eligibility requirements established by the USBF. Additionally, there is always the possibility that a governing body of an international competition might refuse to allow an individual to participate in a competition conducted under its auspices. There is a history of players not receiving the requisite approvals to participate in international competition, ranging from cheating to lack of expertise to deportment problems, among others. 

9) The USBF is quite cognizant of the fact that there are professional arrangements where a player or players are paid to play in events where the ultimate goal is to qualify to represent the United States in international competition. The fact that a player is dependent upon professional fees to earn a living is of no concern to the USBF, and any such arrangements are entirely incidental to any USBF event, outside the control, responsibility or concern of the USBF. The USBF has no obligation to coddle, foster, or protect any person?s ability to earn professional fees.
 
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Re: More signs
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 04:00:14 PM »
I hope idiots like this keep acting like idiots.

The more the left acts out, the less Americans like it.

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 05:34:37 PM »
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Does this mean you agree with the USBF or the members who had the sign?

What it means is this is not a free speech issue. It is a free association issue.

Bridge Federation officials and their membership proclivities is very low on my radar.


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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2007, 05:43:19 PM »
Richpo, why have you chosen a baby devil in a tophat to be your avatar?

Are you trying to scare us? Or could you have made a deal with (turn echobox on) SATAN (turn echobox off)?

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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2007, 05:44:56 PM »
Richpo, why have you chosen a baby devil in a tophat to be your avatar?

He's a Duke fan. Or, it could be because he's proud of his son's team.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 07:01:26 AM »
Perhaps he is a minion of SATAN.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2007, 11:00:16 AM »
Perhaps he is a minion of SATAN.

Aren't you an atheist? How can he be a minion of a figment?

And is this an example of a post that is not intended to be insulting?
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2007, 11:34:05 AM »
>>He's a Duke fan. Or, it could be because he's proud of his son's team.<<

I'll repeat this in case some folks missed it. My son's high school team is playing for the regional championship on Saturday. He's the starting right tackle. They are the Brunswick Blue Devils. If they win, they move on to the State semifinals. That's why I'm displaying the logo.

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 12:38:22 PM »
Perhaps he is a minion of SATAN.

Aren't you an atheist? How can he be a minion of a figment?  And is this an example of a post that is not intended to be insulting?

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