Do as I say, not as I do

[Amianthus]

You started off with the silly remark that because the Senate dining facility was poorly administered, a government healthcare system would be poorly administered. This is feeble logic, for these are different facilities with little in common.

Making the assumption that a government that runs a number of other systems poorly would suddenly put together a well-run health care system seems pretty silly as well.

[sirs]

Your suggestion was that health care was somehow going to be run by the people who managed the Senate dining room. I find this to be extremely unlikely.  You started off with the silly remark that because the Senate dining facility was poorly administered, a government healthcare system would be poorly administered. This is feeble logic, for these are different facilities with little in common.

The coomonality is who's RUNNING it.  In this case it's the Federal government.  Now you can irrationaly try to claim that a Senate Restaurant is nothing like UHC, and you'd be right.  Running UHC is exponentially far more problematic, and the potential for abuse, fraud and utter waste of tax payer dollars is unfathonable.  You can irrationally claim that'd they hire people from Blue Cross and such.  You don't think they try to hire similar experienced folks to run SS?  Medicare??  SS....bordering on bankruptcy.  Medicare....bordering on bankruptcy.  Yet, somehow, someway, the Fed's gonna get it right with UHC, when their track record for running such businesses is utterly incompotent, if not shameful

It's absurd to even think that the Fed will run a UHC any better than the way the run pretty much any other business, which is to say, into the ground, given the laudry list of examples provided

I do not find your intellect to be superior in any way, incidentally.

Good thing I'm not trying to win anyone over with my intellect or highlight myself as superior to anyone, like most liberal elitists try

[Xavier_Onassis]

Actually, the Federal government ran the Alaska Railway at a profit for many years.

The Feds seized Agfa Film during WWI, and ran it, also at a profit (with no advertising at all) until it was returned to the German parent company in the 1960's.

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The basic Republican mantra is that the government cannot run a business because of sweetheart deals and corruption, and whenever they are in charge of the government, this is true, because they are naturally corrupt and mostly have made a fortune precisely with sweetheart deals, like Juniorbush's looting the taxpayers for a stadium to sell with his loser ball team.

Government corporations need to be divorced from political favoritism from either party and run by competent people. Social Security and the Post Office are in my experience, better run than the private competition, ie insurance companies and UPS.

I continue to insist that there is no likelihood that any government health service will be run by the staff of the Senate lunchroom, which was your original quibble.

[sirs]

Actually, the Federal government ran the Alaska Railway at a profit for many years.

That was when?, and is it still making a "profit"?

The Feds seized Agfa Film during WWI, and ran it, also at a profit (with no advertising at all) until it was returned to the German parent company in the 1960's.

So....we don't have that as an example either.  What we DO have are the CURRENT examples of business incompotence, most notably SS & Medicare

Government corporations need to be divorced from political favoritism from either party and run by competent people.

Good luck with that

I continue to insist that there is no likelihood that any government health service will be run by the staff of the Senate lunchroom, which was your original quibble.

No, that was NEVER my original quibble, though not surprising the perverted twist you're trying to apply.  Would be like me claiming that you're advocating that those who supposedly ran the Alaska Railway would be in charge of running UHC.  Pretty ridiculous isn't it.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If that was not your quibble, then you appear to lack skills in expository writing. You should endeavor to say what you mean.

The hypothesis that the government cannot ever run anything competently is simply untrue, for it has been done.

[sirs]

If that was not your quibble, then you appear to lack skills in expository writing. You should endeavor to say what you mean.

It's done consistently.  The problem is I have no control over anyone else's active effort to distort & misrepresent what's been said.  I can simply highlight the egregious distortion effort, much like in this thread

The hypothesis that the government cannot ever run anything competently is simply untrue.

LOL....oh yea, SS & Medicare are the beacons of efficiency and profit margains, not to mention the senate Restaurant

[Xavier_Onassis]

You really do need to read what you have read, as it makes little or no sense.

I suppose that is better than simply plagiarizing crap from Front Page magazine and bile from Coulter.

[sirs]

You really do need to read what you have read,...

Physician, heal thyself

...as it makes little or no sense.

To those that actively, when not grotesquely, misrepresent it, perhaps.  As I said, can't control what others try to pull.  Only highlight it for all to see