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'Pick me' Charlie's backflip
« on: June 20, 2008, 03:31:45 PM »
Governor flips his position on drilling off state's coast
By RON LITTLEPAGE, The (Jacksonville) Times-Union


That wasn't just any normal flip-flop.

What Gov. Charlie Crist attempted this week was a triple back flip followed by a triple salchow.

Wipe out.

I'm sure you remember all of the fun Republicans had with "I was for it before I was against it" John Kerry.

Charlie is now for drilling for oil off Florida's coast when just last week - and last year and the years before that - he was against it.

If John McCain, who also switched positions on oil exploration in the Gulf this week shortly before Crist did, suddenly stopped, "Pick me. Pick me" Charlie would run into him. (I love that 'Pick me' Charlie bit - h)

At least I've been told by a politico that the chances of our Mr. Sunshine being McCain's vice president are between slim and none.

Thank goodness.

But wait a minute. That means we would be stuck with him in Florida.

One of Crist's loyalists credited the switcheroo with Charlie's "uncanny" ability to gauge public opinion.

That's the cheerleader-in-chief's problem. He governs by which way the political wind is blowing, not by what needs to be done.

As for drilling off Florida's coast, I grew up on the Texas coast.

Oil companies have operated there for decades. The beaches there still attract tourists.

With that in mind, I fall into the camp that believes drilling off Florida's coast, especially with today's technology, isn't all that chancy.

On this issue, I agree with House Speaker Marco Rubio. (Whew. That was difficult to write.)

Rubio told the Miami Herald that he supports drilling off Florida's coast "if it can be done in a manner that's safe for our environment."

"For someone to represent that someone drilling off the coast of Florida is going to lower gas prices here or anywhere in the country is disingenuous and a flawed argument," Rubio told the Herald.

"Oil drilling could take 10 years before any oil is pulled out of the ground, and there are a large number of leases held by oil companies that are not being exploited now. We can't say we need more until we exploit those."

Heck, on this one I even agree with former Gov. Jeb Bush. (And that was really painful to write.)

Unfortunately, Crist doesn't deal in reality: Homeowner insurance rates will drop like a rock. Pass Amendment 1 and Florida's economy will take off like a rocket.

He kowtows to what's politically popular, thus the triple back flip and triple salchow on drilling.

Splat.

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Re: 'Pick me' Charlie's backflip
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 03:44:31 PM »
We elected Crist to be governor, not to be VP or to destroy our beaches.
I am disappointed in him over this.

He should be offered a free two week vacation to the beaches of Tampico, just to see what oil can do to a beach.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 10:30:51 PM »
 A few miles further out , in Cuban territory , wells are being drilled and will be run by Chineese companys.

I do hope that they use the best tecnology for these wells.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 07:06:23 AM »
A few miles further out , in Cuban territory , wells are being drilled and will be run by Chineese companys.

I do hope that they use the best tecnology for these wells.

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What an excellent rebuttal!

Because MAYBE some Chinese MIGHT drill wells off the coast of Cuba, then that justifies drilling more wells off the coast of Florida.
It's not like they are going to sell this oil at bargain prices to Americans. Those companies will not think of this as an American resource at all. They will consider it THEIRS, and they will charge as much as they can get away with.

If there is a spill, they will lie, delay, and deny, just as they did in the Exxon Valdez case, which STILL hasn't been resolved.

If I could prevent the Chinese from drilling off the coast of Cuba with my vote, I would do that too. But I CAN vote against McCain, Martinez and Crist, and their greedhead Big Oil pals, and I will do that.
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Re: 'Pick me' Charlie's backflip
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 05:47:04 PM »
A few miles further out , in Cuban territory , wells are being drilled and will be run by Chineese companys.

I do hope that they use the best tecnology for these wells.

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What an excellent rebuttal!

Because MAYBE some Chinese MIGHT drill wells off the coast of Cuba, then that justifies drilling more wells off the coast of Florida.
It's not like they are going to sell this oil at bargain prices to Americans. Those companies will not think of this as an American resource at all. They will consider it THEIRS, and they will charge as much as they can get away with.

If there is a spill, they will lie, delay, and deny, just as they did in the Exxon Valdez case, which STILL hasn't been resolved.

If I could prevent the Chinese from drilling off the coast of Cuba with my vote, I would do that too. But I CAN vote against McCain, Martinez and Crist, and their greedhead Big Oil pals, and I will do that.

There is no maybe about it , the wells we are speaking of will be about fourty miles from American beaches .

I do not really know whether the Chineese wells are less safe than other potential drilling companys .

Who would I ask that?

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 08:13:14 PM »
There are no Cuban territorial waters anyone purposes to drill on 40 miles from any American beach. But that is beside the point. The US cannot prevent Cubans from drilling in Cuban territorial waters. The US can , however, prevent anyone from drilling in US territorial waters, and the more anyone drills, the greater the risk to the beaches.

Drilling in US territorial waters will not lower the price of gasoline. Oil companies, be they American, Chinese or whatever, will charge as much as they possibly can. No oil company is a friend of the US (or any other) consumer.

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 08:26:05 PM »
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Corsi and Smith directly challenge the "peak oil" theory advanced in 1956 by Shell Oil's M. King Hubbert.

In an interview with WND, Smith posed the following question: "If U.S. proven oil reserves can be increased by 50 percent with one deep-earth oil find in the Gulf of Mexico, who knows how much oil might be found as the technology of deep-water drilling advances and becomes even more economically feasible?"

In "Black Gold Stranglehold," Corsi and Smith note the importance of the abiotic theory:


The thought that oil might be naturally produced on a regular basis, that oil itself might be a renewable resource, is very threatening to those who have invested their minds into believing that oil is fossil fuel. The logical consequence of the fossil fuel theory of oil has always been that we will run out of oil. After all, there could only be a finite number of ancient forests available to rot into oil. Ancient forests, even if once plentiful, are a finite resource that by definition will become exhausted after they are fully explored and their oil harvested. The logic of the fossil fuel theory is that inevitably we will run out of oil.
Corsi and Smith note the power of the abiotic theory: "Could it be that oil is abundant, nearly an inexhaustible resource, if only we drill deep enough?"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51837


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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 08:27:42 PM »
There are no Cuban territorial waters anyone purposes to drill on 40 miles from any American beach. But that is beside the point. The US cannot prevent Cubans from drilling in Cuban territorial waters. The US can , however, prevent anyone from drilling in US territorial waters, and the more anyone drills, the greater the risk to the beaches.

Drilling in US territorial waters will not lower the price of gasoline. Oil companies, be they American, Chinese or whatever, will charge as much as they possibly can. No oil company is a friend of the US (or any other) consumer.



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, Cuba announced plans to hire the communist Chinese to drill for oil some 45 miles off the shores of Florida. This move was made possible by the 1977 agreement under President Jimmy Carter that created for Cuba an "Exclusive Economic Zone" extending from the country's western tip to the north, virtually to Key West, Fla.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51837



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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 08:29:26 PM »
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Corsi and Smith directly challenge the "peak oil" theory advanced in 1956 by Shell Oil's M. King Hubbert.

In an interview with WND, Smith posed the following question: "If U.S. proven oil reserves can be increased by 50 percent with one deep-earth oil find in the Gulf of Mexico, who knows how much oil might be found as the technology of deep-water drilling advances and becomes even more economically feasible?"

In "Black Gold Stranglehold," Corsi and Smith note the importance of the abiotic theory:


The thought that oil might be naturally produced on a regular basis, that oil itself might be a renewable resource, is very threatening to those who have invested their minds into believing that oil is fossil fuel. The logical consequence of the fossil fuel theory of oil has always been that we will run out of oil. After all, there could only be a finite number of ancient forests available to rot into oil. Ancient forests, even if once plentiful, are a finite resource that by definition will become exhausted after they are fully explored and their oil harvested. The logic of the fossil fuel theory is that inevitably we will run out of oil.
Corsi and Smith note the power of the abiotic theory: "Could it be that oil is abundant, nearly an inexhaustible resource, if only we drill deep enough?"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51837


Fossil plants are commonly found in Coal.

What evidence has been found to support the theroy that Oil is a fossil ?



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Re: 'Pick me' Charlie's backflip
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 08:49:34 PM »
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Says Phil Peters, vice president of the Lexington Institute, a think tank in Arlington, Va., that defends limited government and free trade, and a Cuba expert: ?If Cuba discovers a lot of oil and becomes an oil exporter, the embargo almost becomes an absurdity.?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14095881/

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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 11:05:13 AM »
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