Meet the Press

[Lanya]

Then start up the draft.  Pay war taxes.  Anything less is unacceptable.   If you really think this war MUST be won, what are you doing here at home?  What on earth could be more important than your country?   There are people over 50 years of age, being called back to serve.  This is crazy. 

My Job is war essential.

I have had war related jobs almost all of my career.


Your welcome.

I'm sorry, Plane.  I deserved that. 
My dad was quite a bit older than other dads of my friends, and he didn't fight in WW2.  I asked why one time. During the war I believe he was a printing press operator, or that's what I remember being told.  I guess that was a protected job.

[Brassmask]

But you did get paid right?

Are you in the military?

[Plane]

But you did get paid right?

Are you in the military?

My job does not directly kill anyone , never has been that.

But I have made certain that F-15s would fire their missles.
I have made certain that Paratroopers could jump from C-141s
I have ensured that the Fuel would flow in an AC-130.

Back when I was in the military my job was to keep my ship afloat and in good condition to bombard a beach with 5" shells weighing seventy five pounds each.


None of these are good career choices for a Mennonite , good thing I am Babtist (mostly).

[Brassmask]

But for what is it that Lanya owes you her gratitude?

When you use the term "job", I'm assuming that you are NOT in the military NOW but work for some kind of military contractor.  Is this a correct assumption?  Because you would have been profiting from the military and not really making any sacrifice as Lanya had said you might consider if you support the war so much.  Paying war taxes (as opposed to supporting tax breaks) and joining the military (to actually fight and be "over there") is sacrifice.

Working for a military contractor which makes a profit from our tax dollars and actually BENEFITS from more wars and more military action is NOT sacrifice, is NOT moral support for the troops or involvement in the struggle and conflict that out military faces daily due to your liar of a "president".

The military industrial complex (not you in particular, I'm sure) actually HOPES for wars because they see their stocks rise.  Which to me is about as abhorrent as child rape.  Without even getting into the whole aspect of their needing the wars that they push for to be seen as "moral" or "righteous" or "in the interests of the US" in order to keep The People from not stringing them up for pushing for wars.

So, I'm just asking you if you are in the military or if you just work for a company that contracts with the military because if you work for a military contractor who supplies the troops or whatever, there is no reason in the whole universe that Lanya or anyone for that matter owes you a debt of gratitude on top of your check.

[Plane]

I am a blue collar employee of the US government .

A WG of the DOD


My chain of Command includes Secretary Rumsfeild and a coupple of ignoramuses you would not beleive without seeing them , see my other thread about where I work.


I was enlisted for a little while and got to tour the Persian Gulf twice , I don't reccomend it while so much fighting is going on , but if peace ever comes to the region the SCUBA diveing there will be excellent.


If your point is that I am well paid , then you are right , but I love my job above my pay for two reasons , I love Aircraft , I like the idea of my country being strong.

[sirs]

So then you admit that Iraq was better off with Saddam in control?

Better for Saddam, absolutely.  For the citizens living in an overt oppressive dictatorship?, Government sponsored rape rooms?, mandatory youth military Baath enrollment or jail?, being shot or dismembered for daring to criticize the President?  Does that even require an answer?

[Xavier_Onassis]

My job does not directly kill anyone , never has been that.

But I have made certain that F-15s would fire their missles.
I have made certain that Paratroopers could jump from C-141s
I have ensured that the Fuel would flow in an AC-130.

Back when I was in the military my job was to keep my ship afloat and in good condition to bombard a beach with 5" shells weighing seventy five pounds each.


None of these are good career choices for a Mennonite , good thing I am Babtist (mostly).
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In your dreams, what you do must be done.

It makes no difference where that beach was, it just needed shelling. The people living there deserved to die. It is a good thing that you were there to kill them, otherwise, they might have.....

done what, exactly?

Not been targets? Sneaked into the US and taken American Jobs?
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How would that have affected any of us in the least? (Other than us having to pay through the noise for the F-15's and the bombs and all that wasted fuel), I mean)

Even if you did not work for the current Fascist War Machine, you would have found a job somewhere. The folks at the local Wall*Mart would still have their jobs.

I think you should either choose to be a mennonite (you can spell Mennonite) or learn how to spell Baptist.

It is always best never to be anything you cannot spell.


War is a business. A huge, whacking, destructive stupid business that always has a negative balance sheet.

Had there been no US intervention in Afghanistan, the USSR would have still lost, it would have still collapsed. There would have been no Al Qaeda, and bin Laden would be behind a desk somewhere, ordering Pakis about.

[Amianthus]

It is always best never to be anything you cannot spell.

Still continuing to criticize spelling errors, while making them yourself?

And the new software even has a spelling checker built in. It's a wonder that you continue to make spelling errors.

[Plane]

Is it true that a weak America would still be a free America?

[sirs]

Is it true that a weak America would still be a free America?

See my Reagan quote a the bottom, for that answer     

[Brassmask]

I am a blue collar employee of the US government .

Ok, that's cool.  So you're like a support person for the military.  That's not nearly as horrible as being a military contractor.

However, I don't see how you make that out to be something that we thank you for on top of paying you.

[Plane]

I am a blue collar employee of the US government .

Ok, that's cool.  So you're like a support person for the military.  That's not nearly as horrible as being a military contractor.

However, I don't see how you make that out to be something that we thank you for on top of paying you.

"...So, I'm just asking you if you are in the military or if you just work for a company that contracts with the military because if you work for a military contractor who supplies the troops or whatever, there is no reason in the whole universe that Lanya or anyone for that matter owes you a debt of gratitude on top of your check."

Well since you put it that way .

Thank You

[Brassmask]

De nada, mi amigo.  De nada.

[The_Professor]

XO, for someone who is obviously bright and apparently at one time a college professor, your attitudes are sometimes both erroneous and negligent. And your language is unseemly. If you used that type of language in the classroom, I wonder about the classroom environment. My mother always said that if you consistently use swear words, what does THAT say about your vocabulary?

As far as spelling, so what? I tell students all the time that I am more concerned about the CONTENT of their work than the formatting. Content is their future; they can always brush up on formatting. Plane misspells some; but he frequently posts thought-provoking comments.

Without being strong, a nation cannot stand. Think you would be speaking anything but German if we weren't strong 80 years ago...50 years ago et al? Sprechen Sie Deutsch?