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Janefinch

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 11:45:49 PM »
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2006-11-01/feature.php

This is the feature article in Texas Monthly, all about Robert Gates, the new Sec. of Defense.   He is currently the president of Texas A&M University.

Hmm....repubgirl should be wading in on this one!

Well, I for one am ecstatic that he's gone....but too little, too late.  Canadian troops are in Afghanistan, not Iraq, but really it's all the same intertwined policy...I, like many of the politicans, am depending on the Baker report to suggest a better policy.

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2006, 11:52:21 PM »
<<Something tells me the fix is in. I think Bush cut a deal to avoid the threat of impeachment. >>

Sorry, Larry, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, he had nothing to fear.  I caught her on Wolf Blitzer tonight and she - - this is unbelievable!! - - she committed to NOT using the purse strings to force the Army out of Iraq.  Not even officially in office and already she's tied her hands for the whole term.  I hope I'm wrong, but this is shaping up as some kind of bipartisan love-fest where the Dems get to rule the sandbox as long as they do what the Republicans want.  What the hell, they both get their funding from the same well, why not?  "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2006, 12:45:50 AM »
The principaled do things that appear stupid sometimes.


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This could be true, but Juniorbush sacking Rummy after the election was more a case of the stupid doing the long overdue at a time when it would bring the least possible benefit.

You will go blind looking for principles among the Bushites. They are as devoid of them as an elephant is of eels.
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 02:35:47 PM »
<<Something tells me the fix is in. I think Bush cut a deal to avoid the threat of impeachment. >>

Sorry, Larry, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, he had nothing to fear.  I caught her on Wolf Blitzer tonight and she - - this is unbelievable!! - - she committed to NOT using the purse strings to force the Army out of Iraq.  Not even officially in office and already she's tied her hands for the whole term.  I hope I'm wrong, but this is shaping up as some kind of bipartisan love-fest where the Dems get to rule the sandbox as long as they do what the Republicans want.  What the hell, they both get their funding from the same well, why not?  "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Ok...She can use the purse strings and hurt the soldiers...pull out the troops and the Land between the Rivers becomes another Iran, with the people becoming the chess pieces of the Mulas...
And the dems majority will  last two years.

Or we can work together to get our people out, leave the Iraqis in some kind of stability...after all we broke it..after 66000+ iraqis dead and many more  with ruined lives...with them not haveing the basics of a life and many being chased out of their homes and living in tents...so we should just RUN? I want out, but damit we owe those people something. Not to put  Bush in the right..but to do what is right. Too many kids have been killed..too many women are living poorer lives and too many promises were made and not kept. 

We either change direction and start careing how we do things...not just get our people out, but to care about the broken country and people we leave behind.

This is a moral imperative that we make our soldiers  safer..our nation safer and our ideals glued back together.
Takeing money out of the war will not end the war...it will leave a people more angry and the threats of the Bush administration will be true. We will have done what will lose our ability to make changes in this country to fix the broken branch and will give more power to those who would drag us further down the war road.

So we need to bite the bullet and  do what is right, for our hard fighting soldiers and the iraqi people.

Impeachment? So we can spend millions of dollars, take the remainder of Bush's term to impeach him,...and do what? Have Chaney as the next fearless leader? Or should we start with Chaney? You think that that would be the way to lead? The republicans  proved they can not govern. We know we can...there is too much to do. People are hurting,  the middle class is suffering...we are in a position to take more seats in 2008...we are in states that went 100% red...we lost not one seat and gained. Should we poke the hornests nest and lose in 2008? should we give the loyal opposition ammunition?

We have work to do. We can  do what it takes to do it...or play partisan politics that will gain in the short term only. Pelosi is right...we have investigations to  do..hearings to hold...on corruption in rebuilding of Iraq, in Katrina, in feeding and care of our soldiers... there is much to do. There is getting the Ethics committees up and running,....there is  getting something done on energy, there is keeping corporations out of owning the Internet, there is getting us back to the running of a large and complicated nation.

We don't have time in two years to change everything...and we certainly do not have time to impeach Bush, Chaney, and maybe Rummy.

I would like to see Bush and the whole muderous gang in prison, maybe Gitmo... for life. But it would be counterproductive to what we need.

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Re: Rummy resigns...
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2006, 09:13:21 PM »
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2006-11-01/feature.php

This is the feature article in Texas Monthly, all about Robert Gates, the new Sec. of Defense.   He is currently the president of Texas A&M University.

Hmm....repubgirl should be wading in on this one!

Well, I for one am ecstatic that he's gone....but too little, too late.  Canadian troops are in Afghanistan, not Iraq, but really it's all the same intertwined policy...I, like many of the politicans, am depending on the Baker report to suggest a better policy.

Then there's this about Gates:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_16.htm

I think NO would be a great answer to his nomination. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2006, 02:30:25 AM »
<<Something tells me the fix is in. I think Bush cut a deal to avoid the threat of impeachment. >>

Sorry, Larry, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, he had nothing to fear.  I caught her on Wolf Blitzer tonight and she - - this is unbelievable!! - - she committed to NOT using the purse strings to force the Army out of Iraq.  Not even officially in office and already she's tied her hands for the whole term.  I hope I'm wrong, but this is shaping up as some kind of bipartisan love-fest where the Dems get to rule the sandbox as long as they do what the Republicans want.  What the hell, they both get their funding from the same well, why not?  "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Ok...She can use the purse strings and hurt the soldiers...pull out the troops and the Land between the Rivers becomes another Iran, with the people becoming the chess pieces of the Mulas...
And the dems majority will  last two years. ...

...We don't have time in two years to change everything...and we certainly do not have time to impeach Bush, Chaney, and maybe Rummy.

I would like to see Bush and the whole muderous gang in prison, maybe Gitmo... for life. But it would be counterproductive to what we need.

terra




Very perceptive Terra.

But now that the Dems are in is restraint and focus possible?


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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2006, 05:40:40 PM »
<<Something tells me the fix is in. I think Bush cut a deal to avoid the threat of impeachment. >>

Sorry, Larry, with Nancy Pelosi at the helm, he had nothing to fear.  I caught her on Wolf Blitzer tonight and she - - this is unbelievable!! - - she committed to NOT using the purse strings to force the Army out of Iraq.  Not even officially in office and already she's tied her hands for the whole term.  I hope I'm wrong, but this is shaping up as some kind of bipartisan love-fest where the Dems get to rule the sandbox as long as they do what the Republicans want.  What the hell, they both get their funding from the same well, why not?  "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Ok...She can use the purse strings and hurt the soldiers...pull out the troops and the Land between the Rivers becomes another Iran, with the people becoming the chess pieces of the Mulas...
And the dems majority will  last two years. ...

...We don't have time in two years to change everything...and we certainly do not have time to impeach Bush, Chaney, and maybe Rummy.

I would like to see Bush and the whole muderous gang in prison, maybe Gitmo... for life. But it would be counterproductive to what we need.

terra




Very perceptive Terra.

But now that the Dems are in is restraint and focus possible?



Pelosi and Reid are both aiming that way. The dems must get something done unless they want to lose in two years.
They have some great ideas to be bipartisan. Rangle has a plan to take all the committee to  a retreat to get to know each other and to talk to experts. This is the stuff dems used to do...watch for longer work days... the two day work week was unheard of under the dems. In fact they and their families lived in DC... they had to. The dems got too arrogant, they started forgetting that they represented all the people...  the repubs forgot that. Bush spent our money stumping for the repubs. He is ot everyone's prez. He is just the leader of the republican party.

I am excited over watching what happens. I can not wait for Jan 3..and see Speaker Pelosi take her chair and gavel the House into session.   ;)

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