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Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:42:11 PM »
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
Obama 49.1%, McCain 44.1%

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UTICA, New York -- Republican John McCain made a small gain against Democrat Barack Obama and has pulled back within the margin of error, now trailing Obama by five points, 49.1% to 44.1%, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows.

Almost two days worth of the polling -- or about half of the current sample in the three-day rolling poll of likely voters nationwide, was conducted after Obama's 30-minute commercial aired Wednesday evening. There is no evidence it helped him, as he has dropped 1.1 points in the last two days, while McCain has gained 0.8 points during the same period.

Pollster John Zogby: "Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. "Obama's lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on."

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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 05:54:22 PM »
Sorry RD....but I'm not seeing it.  The most important polls are those of "likely voters", and those likely voters in the swing battleground states.  And in both of those 2 categories, I see Obama's #'s pretty much outside the margain of error.  And this issue with the Aunt's immigration status, is not going to hold any water, IMHO

Looking forward to Carter II, with a misery index approaching 20 by 2010.  But hey, if it takes 1 term for the populace to really get a glimpse of what a hard core liberal administration can do to the country, they could have looked at CA, but apparently they need to see it applied country wide, before reality will sink in
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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 01:13:00 AM »
Sorry RD....but I'm not seeing it.  The most important polls are those of "likely voters", and those likely voters in the swing battleground states.  And in both of those 2 categories, I see Obama's #'s pretty much outside the margain of error.  And this issue with the Aunt's immigration status, is not going to hold any water, IMHO

Looking forward to Carter II, with a misery index approaching 20 by 2010.  But hey, if it takes 1 term for the populace to really get a glimpse of what a hard core liberal administration can do to the country, they could have looked at CA, but apparently they need to see it applied country wide, before reality will sink in



Well , let them ruin things properly and perhaps i two years we will have a chance to regain the Congress.

That is how it worked for Clinton , but if we manage to get another try at a Republican Revolution and a contract with America , lets be insistnt on the contract being fulfilled  , item one -term limits.

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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2008, 01:16:16 AM »
We already have term limits. It comes in the form of a ballot box.


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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2008, 01:22:46 AM »
We already have term limits. It comes in the form of a ballot box.



True , but the Public seems to allow the incumbants advantage to produce a totally geriactric Congress , not that their age is bad but that after the fourth term they seem to have grown attached to their offices more than their ideals.

In fact I woud be happy with somethign that reduced incumbent advantage enough to increase turnover , even if it was not term limits .

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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2008, 01:36:51 AM »
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In fact I woud be happy with somethign that reduced incumbent advantage enough to increase turnover , even if it was not term limits .

The advantage to incumbency is two fold. One is seniority and wider influence on committees that should reflect the voters interests. I could see where a south georgia congressperson would be interested in sitting on an agricultural committee, John Lewis of Atlanta might be interested in housing and transit.

The second advantage to an incumbent is fund raising as they exercise the influence they have received from seniority.

The answer is public financing of elections, especially with congressional and senatorial elections.

BTW don't those Jim Martin ads just make you cringe? The whole 23% sales tax lie?




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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2008, 01:52:53 AM »
The second advantage to an incumbent is fund raising as they exercise the influence they have received from seniority.

The answer is public financing of elections, especially with congressional and senatorial elections.






The whole point of McCain Feingold and the thing that McCain wanted most to accomplish with his carreer as a Senator , but it is ironicly hamstringing him right now. It is restricting him a lot more than his opponent.

If a measure was adequit for the purpose the incumbants that it needs to vote it in willprobly want to weaken it a bit.


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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 02:09:24 AM »
BTW don't those Jim Martin ads just make you cringe? The whole 23% sales tax lie?





These?
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/11/01/who_owns_saxby_economics_and_w.html

Chambliss isn't threatened by Martins smarts , that is for sure ....

but...

Obama Coattails?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-cleland/georgia-on-my-mind_b_138496.html

MaX Cleland

"The fact that Obama is even close in Georgia -- like four points -- is a miracle," said Cleland. "It is unheard of. And who knows what will happen in terms of turnout. It could push him over the top, it could push Martin over the top. We have historic numbers in terms of registration, African-Americans and young people. We have not had that ever in terms of early voting, in terms of absentee voting."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/cleland-worried-about-whi_n_139652.html?show_comment_id=17523452

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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 06:59:02 AM »
"The fact that Obama is even close in Georgia -- like four points -- is a miracle," said Cleland. "It is unheard of."

Don't know why he's thinks it's unheard of - Georgia has gone for Democrats plenty of times, Clinton being the most recent.
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Re: Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Is McCain Making a Move?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 11:06:42 PM »
"The fact that Obama is even close in Georgia -- like four points -- is a miracle," said Cleland. "It is unheard of."

Don't know why he's thinks it's unheard of - Georgia has gone for Democrats plenty of times, Clinton being the most recent.


Max talks like that , he was elected as a Democrat himself , so he knows he is exaggerateing.

But Cleland has a loyal following , and even those of us who won't vote his way anymore still hold him in respect.