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SAFE Act
« on: May 03, 2014, 11:41:10 PM »
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1. The Safe Carry Protection Act
2. Idaho’s Concealed Weapon Bill
3. SAFE Act

The SAFE Act is a less recent piece of legislation; it passed in 2013, but had an important deadline recently on April 15. The act required that assault weapon owners register their guns with the state of New York, but as of April 16 The Christian Science Monitor reported that a solid 1 million gun owners had ignored the new gun control legislation and had failed to do so.

The refusal to act on the bill in such a large population places New York’s government in a difficult situation. “The line in the sand has been drawn, and if Gov. Andrew Cuomo wants to send state police out on house-to-house searches and put hundreds of thousands of people in prison, they can do that,” said Dave Kopel, research director at the Independence Institute, to The Christian Science Monitor.

 
The weaponry in question includes semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, pistol grips, folding stocks, second hand grips, bayonet mounts, and flash suppressors, and the law made it illegal to purchase said guns, but allowed those already owned to be retained so long as they were registered.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/politics/3-laws-targeting-the-united-states-gun-debate.html/3/


Hooray for the gun owners of New York who refuse to stand and be counted.

If the Governor repeals the fourth and fifth amendment he will then be able to enforce his repeal of the second amendment. 

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 11:57:25 PM »
http://www.nypdcea.org/pdfs/NYSP_Safe_Act_Field_Guide.pdf

1. Definition: The Safe Act redefined the term “Assault Weapon” and created registration requirements for those who lawfully owned them before the enactment of the statute.
As of January 15, 2013, the term “Assault Weapon” has been redefined as:2
• A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following military characteristics:
a. Folding or Telescoping Stock
b. Protruding Pistol Grip
c. Thumbhole Stock
d. Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-shooting hand
e. Bayonet Mount
f. Flash Suppressor
g. Muzzle Brake
h. Muzzle Compensator
i. A threaded barrel designed to accommodate the above
j. Grenade Launcher
• A semiautomatic shotgun having at least one of the following characteristics:
a. Folding or Telescoping Stock
b. Thumbhole Stock
c. Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-trigger hand
d. Fixed magazine capacity in excess of seven rounds
e. An ability to accept a detachable magazine
• A semiautomatic pistol, able to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following characteristics:
a. Folding or Telescoping Stock
b. Thumbhole Stock
c. Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-trigger hand
d. Capacity to accept an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside the pistol grip
e. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip or silencer
f. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned
g. A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded
2 There are some exceptions to this definition. For example a rifle, shotgun or pistol that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action, an antique firearm, and those firearms, rifles and shotguns made at least 50 years ago are not classified as Assault Weapons. Officers seeking more specific information on these and other exceptions should check the information on the Internet at http://www.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-reform or contact the state police Safe Act hotline at 1-855-LAW-GUNS.

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2. Registration Requirements
Anyone who lawfully possessed a weapon on or before January 15, 2013, that has been redefined as an Assault Weapon by the Act, may keep that weapon provided the person registers the weapon by April 15, 2014. The registration process is a quick, simple and free procedure that can be conducted over the Internet. The web site is https://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/safeact/welcome.faces.
The registration for an assault weapon must be renewed every 5 years.

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4. Applicable Criminal Charges: (Chargeable after April 15, 2014)
Applies when a person lawfully possessed the assault weapon before January 15, 2013.
Failure to Register an Assault Weapon / PL 400.00 (16-a) (c) (class A misdemeanor)
A person who knowingly fails to register by April 15, 2014, may be charged with PL section 400.00 (16-a) (c) / “Knowingly Failing to Register an Assault Weapon,” a class A misdemeanor. This charge applies to a person who lawfully possessed the weapon prior to the Safe Act, knew that the weapon was of the type that must be registered and failed to register it.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2014, 12:09:48 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY_SAFE_Act
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As of May 11, 2013, 52 of New York's 62 counties have passed official resolutions in direct opposition of the NY SAFE Act; some of these counties have directed their law enforcement officials to not enforce the SAFE Act within their jurisdictions. More than 325 local municipalities throughout upstate New York have also voiced public opposition to the law through village, town and city resolutions calling for repeal.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2014, 12:25:26 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/12/new-york-safe-act/4430741/


   The law is a year old , not ready yet to evaluate how much safer New Yorkers are with bayonets forbidden than they were before.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2014, 12:38:24 AM »
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/23/gaining-momentum-now-42-gun-companies-have-stopped-selling-to-law-enforcement-in-anti-2nd-amendment-states/


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On Saturday I refused to sell a AR-15 rifle to a police officer from California. He came into my shop and wanted to buy his duty gun in AZ because the same gun in his home state would cost him more. I told him that I would not sell him the gun even though he had his department letter saying he was able to buy it. I told him that if the gun was not legal for law abiding men and women in CA, I would not sell it to him. after he told me that “civilians don’t need them type of guns” I asked to leave my shop. as he stomped out mad.


Hey !

I want to know which arms and ammunition companies are scabs on this boycott.

The public buys a lot of ammunition and that business shouldn't go where it isn't deserved.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2014, 12:57:08 AM »

Ooooh... well said Sheriff!


http://www.nysheriffs.org/articles/sheriffs%E2%80%99-response-ny-safe-act
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It is the view of the Sheriffs’ Association that anytime government decides it is necessary or desirable to test the boundaries of a constitutional right that it should only be done with caution and with great respect for those constitutional boundaries. Further, it should only be done if the benefit to be gained is so great and certain that it far outweighs the damage done by the constriction of individual liberty. While many of the provisions of the new law have surface appeal, it is far from certain that all, or even many, of them will have any significant effect in reducing gun violence, which is the presumed goal of all of us. Unfortunately the process used in adoption of this act did not permit the mature development of the arguments on either side of the debate, and thus many of the stakeholders in this important issue are left feeling ignored by their government. Even those thrilled with the passage of this legislation should be concerned about the process used to secure its passage, for the next time they may find themselves the victim of that same process.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 07:03:22 PM »
Why would they be safer if they refused to register their guns?

The state of New York is not going to take them away unless they are used in the commission of a crime.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2014, 10:00:50 PM »
Why would they be safer if they refused to register their guns?

The state of New York is not going to take them away unless they are used in the commission of a crime.

Or if they have a problem in their record.

If they have been in treatment for depression they cannot have a rifle with a handle sticking out the side.

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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 06:46:04 PM »
How is the state of NY going to know that a gun buyer has mental problems, unless they have his name?
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Re: SAFE Act
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2014, 10:07:52 PM »
So HIPPA is repealed and Doctor patient confidentiality  has a loophole.