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sirs

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...and yet, still no link to the magical claim that people are happier with their Obamacare, than before it was passed.  Just your say so.  Fancy that       8)

Here's a hint.....education requires backing up one's own claims, not simply taking your word for it.  I could try and educate you on Soft Tissue Mobilization vs Joint Tissue Mobilization, but I'd have to show you the why and hows, if you were to ask.  I don't tell you to go find it yourself.  When students asked you questions, you taught them, using text books, to back up your say so.  You didn't tell them to "go look it up themselves"

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Go fuck yourself, sirs. If you wanted to find information about this, you could do so on your own.
I am not here to educate you. I have given up on this. It was never my goal.

I think it is legitimate to ask you for your favorite source, a source you can defend as well thought out and trustworthy.

Tough for an opponent to find an authority that isn't rejectable for just being , but favoriates can be compared.
 Impeaching each others expert authority factoid mongers can be fun.

But...

Don't keep asking.

A persons opinion is a real thing even if he has come up with it himself.

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My opinion is that Obamacare is more popular than unpopular and anyone who ends it will be despised.

It is futile to quote sources for anything to you sirs.

If you think it is fun, please continue, but I am not playing your idiotic game.
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sirs

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So, your claim was nothing more than an opinion, based on your own anectodal viewpoint.  To quote a source that backs it up has....one more time....nothing to do with me.  Nor is this a game.  This is debunking the notion that people like Obamacare more now, than what they had before.  And you did it yourself, by failing to back up that claim with anything, outside of your opinion

I, on the other hand, have an intimate grasp of how Obamacare is effecting the healthcare industry, since I work in the field.  It's not only dismantling quality and jacking up premiums, but poll after poll after poll demonstrate a majority of the population THAT NEVER SUPPORTED IT IN THE 1ST PLACE.  Those are actual facts to back up my claim, not just my opinion, which appears to be all you have

And this is the part I have to break to hnumpah....Obamcare can not be "reformed".  It can not be fixed, because its foundation is flawed, as in the Federal Government being in charge of it.  What made our healthcare great, was the free market system.  Yes, some folks who were poor or had pre-existing conditions, couldn't get the same access to the quality of care.  But you don't throw out quality simply to get more people covered.  You incentivize those who don't to seek out healthcare, and you incentivize those carriers to reach out to those who are poor or have pre-existing conditions.  What you don't do is threaten folks with fines & negative reinforcement.  And you don't put the biggest bureaucracy in charge of it all.  Otherwise you get exactly what we've been witness to, the degradation in the quality of care, longer waiting lists, increased physician shortfalls, and spiking premiums that don't effect the poor, since they're not paying for it, or the rich since they can afford it....no it's hitting the middle-class, like a sledgehammer
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Having trouble getting paid are we, eh, sirs?
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sirs

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Completely irrelevent to the point being made, but bravo on the standard deflection efforts     ::)
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The "biggest bureaucracy" is in charge of my Medicare Advantage Plan. and it works pretty well.

My only complaint is that Silver Sneakers did not send me a new ID card when my wallet was stolen and I had to print out one online.

They should have just  opened up Medicare to the entire population with an Advantage Plan option.

But they did not do this because they were trying to get some asshole Republican'ts to support it so they copied Romneycare.

You don't like it, blame Romney.
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sirs

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Again, you're just using your own personal anecdotal POV.  I'm witness to it on a far grander scale, and have seen how obliterating its been on the Healthcare & pocketbooks, of so many.  The bureaucracy of the Federal Government is abhorent.  Look at how the VA is run for crying out loud

And no, I blame every fricken Democrat who voted for it on a pure party line vote, with no support what-so-ever from anyone else, and even then, had to use parlimentary shenanigans to get it passed
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And it is NOT getting repealed. hee hee hee.
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I know you love going back to that, but if Trump or Cruz is elected, most, if not all, will be repealed, and replaced with something far more functional, and more importantly, NOT run by the Federal Government

hehe, right back atcha
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Trump or Cruz will be defeated ignominiously.

You might have the opportunity to voter for Cruz OR Trump. Trump sounds like he is thinking about running as a third party candidate. Gee, I hope he does.

Cruz the Canadian born fundie Christian weasel or Trump the megabillion dollar egomaniac blowhard.

And you had such high hopes for Scott Walker. Those Koch Brothers just refused to send him more money. They are the ones to blame.
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You're 99% erroneous opinion is duly noted...such as the one that professed to lay claim how the Koch's and company could buy the nomination.  News flash....THE PEOPLE DO  (unless you're a Democrat of course, in which case you can lose a bunch of nominating elections, but have a ton of "superdelagates" in your pocket.  Poor Bernie.....he has to be feeling that bern)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle