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sirs

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Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« on: April 29, 2008, 11:54:33 AM »
Is Jeremiah Wright a colossal disaster for Barack Obama or a press trick?

Tuesday, April 29th 2008
 
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright couldn't have done more damage to Barack Obama's campaign if he had tried. And you have to wonder if that's just what one friend of Wright wanted.

Shortly before he rose to deliver his rambling, angry, sarcastic remarks at the National Press Club Monday, Wright sat next to, and chatted with, Barbara Reynolds.

A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister).

It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter.

On a blog linked to her Web site- www.reynoldsnews.com- Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency.

The same post criticized Obama's "Audacity of Hope" theme: "Hope by definition is not based on facts," wrote Reynolds. It is an emotional expectation. Things hoped for may or may not come. But help based on experience trumps hope every time."

In another blog entry, Reynolds gives an ever-sharper critique of Obama: "It is a sad testimony that to protect his credentials as a unifier above the fray, the senator is fueling the media characterization that Rev. Dr. Wright is some retiring old uncle in the church basement."

I don't know if Reynolds' eagerness to help Wright stage a disastrous news conference with the national media was a way of trying to help Clinton - my queries to Reynolds by phone and e-mail weren't returned yesterday - but it's safe to say she didn't see any conflict between promoting Wright and supporting Clinton.

It's hard to exaggerate how bad the actual news conference was. Wright, steeped in an honorable, fiery tradition of Bible-based social criticism, cheapened his arguments and his movement by mugging for the cameras, rolling his eyes, heaping scorn on his critics and acting as if nobody in the room was learned enough to ask him a question.

Wright has, unquestionably, been caricatured and vilified unfairly. The feeding programs, prison outreach and other social services he has built over more than 30 years are commendable, and his reading of the Judeo-Christian tradition as an epic story of people trying to escape slavery is far more right than wrong - and not something to be caricatured or compressed into a 10-second sound bite.

But Wright should have known - and his friend and ally Reynolds, a media professional, surely knew - that bickering with the press can only harm Wright and, by extension, Obama.

I hope that wasn't their goal.


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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 02:18:50 PM »
SIRS, Wright gives Hillary a chance.
I can not understand why Wright is doing this?
It's almost as if he is intentionally trying to hurt Senator Obama's chances?




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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 02:53:19 PM »
My "theory", besides trying to bring himself and his church into the spotlight, is 2fold: KINDA hope Obama wins the election, BUT, if he doesn't, blame it on our Country's continued evil white man's racist ways.  Kind of a win-WIN scenario
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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 03:13:54 PM »
Watching Barak Obama live just now , calling Wright remarks wrong in a very clear and definate way.

He seems to regret haveing to do this , but I beleive him , he mentions Wrights remark about his previous renunciation being politically motivated .

 Barak Obama is pretty much what he needs to be and is as genuine as any one elese ing the Senate.

If only he wasn't in love with Taxes.

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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 03:24:52 PM »
Plane,
You say, "If only he wasn't in love with Taxes."
I don't think he's in love with them. He just realizes:
We have organized ourselves into a government, and just like a co-op or a country club, you have to pay your dues or stuff won't get done.  Because you have to pay for services and goods.
That's what taxes do.
That's what frees us from unsafe drinking water, roads, etc.  That's why we have a military, police, fire fighters, meat inspectors, etc.
Are you in love with your salary, or do you just realize you have to earn money to live?  You could put it all on a credit card and hope your children would settle your estate debts when you're gone...but that isn't responsible.
A responsible leader knows he has to raise money for things that have to be done.

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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 03:53:26 PM »
sirs i am curious to why wright would come want to return to the spotlight now?
i mean the guy had to know it would hurt obama
do you think it could be for the simple self serving agenda of money?
i hear the guy is being paid for interviews
i suppose he could be motivated to "cash in" while he is hot?
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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 04:27:01 PM »
Plane,
You say, "If only he wasn't in love with Taxes."
I don't think he's in love with them. He just realizes:
We have organized ourselves into a government, and just like a co-op or a country club, you have to pay your dues or stuff won't get done.  Because you have to pay for services and goods.
That's what taxes do.
That's what frees us from unsafe drinking water, roads, etc.  That's why we have a military, police, fire fighters, meat inspectors, etc.
Are you in love with your salary, or do you just realize you have to earn money to live?  You could put it all on a credit card and hope your children would settle your estate debts when you're gone...but that isn't responsible.
A responsible leader knows he has to raise money for things that have to be done.




Not at all what I am talking about , there is not a politician of any party anywhere on the planet that would disagree with you ,and getting the roads built and the shores defended could be done with less than is now taken , but there are politicians who go further much further in their Love for taxes because taxes have power to destroy.

Why did Napolion love artillery , why does Tim Allen love eight cilinders? Why does Barak Obama love more Taxes?

More power!

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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 04:36:50 PM »
sirs i am curious to why wright would come want to return to the spotlight now?

Public rehabilitation?  Try to turn an obvious black mark (pun unintended) into a positive?  Perhaps he even has JJ/Sharpton ambitions, and thus needs a springboard.  Whatever the reasons, it's consistently hurting Obama's Presidential chances every time he opens his mouth.  And that's not just this partisan conservative's opinion, that's consistently being opined by many Obama supporters, incl Obama himself apparently


i mean the guy had to know it would hurt obama  do you think it could be for the simple self serving agenda of money?

Seriously, I think it's all about the win-WIN scenario I portrayed above.  And if Obama loses, his remarks will supposedly be vindicated.  It's sad, since when Obama came into the forefront, it was largely unrelated to race, and much more so about his articulated points and prominent stature.  Now, that's all that it's apparently about is race, thanks to the good Reverend


i hear the guy is being paid for interviews  i suppose he could be motivated to "cash in" while he is hot?

Isn't his "flock" paying for his brand new milliondollar home in an afluent rich whiteman's area?
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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 05:12:56 PM »
Ya gots ta watch out or dat...


What's next, LessChristians, blackface? A minstral act?
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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 05:25:44 PM »
Ya gots ta watch out or dat...


What's next, LessChristians, blackface? A minstral act?


 I don't think Reverend Wright will get any more gross , He won't do a minstral act , but what is happening is close enough, is bad enough.

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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 05:44:38 PM »
Boy, ain't that the truth.
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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 05:47:05 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24371827/

Obama strongly denounces former pastor


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As if he is sorry he needs to.

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Re: Couldn't have done more, if he tried
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 06:20:42 PM »
"Boy, ain't that the truth"

SIRS you said "boy" that must mean you a racist!  :D
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2008, 06:22:26 PM »
"Boy, ain't that the truth"

SIRS you said "boy" that must mean you a racist!  :D


Doesn't that depend on the race he is?

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2008, 06:47:57 PM »
"Boy, ain't that the truth"

SIRS you said "boy" that must mean you a racist!  :D

Doesn't that depend on the race he is?

Precisely.  Apparently if you're of a minority race, it's impossible for you to be a racist.  Can spout all the hatefilled segregory & seperatist rhetoric you want, and apparently it's acceptable, and even justified because of how terrible your great great great great grandfather had it. But if you're of the caucasion pigment, just patting someone on the back who's great great great great grandfather might have own slaves plausibly makes you a racist.  Extreme examples perhaps, but more than makes the point
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