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Michael Tee

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Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« on: September 13, 2008, 10:44:10 PM »
For any one who still believes McCain's bullshit tales of "torture" - -

<<Did you catch the previously unknown footage of McCain on Thursday night by a Swedish TV station? It was from March 14, 1973, when McCain was released by the Vietnamese. This was not the tortured cripple of the “returning hero” clips and photos we’ve been seeing. He looks pretty spry, albeit with a slight limp.Here’s the  link to the news coverage on SVT’s “Rapport”
http://svt.se/play?a=1244518

<<We were sent it from Stockholm by CounterPuncher Horst Schröder who also furnishes a rough translation of the clip. As follows:

<<[Images of  journalist Erik Eriksson today at his writing desk.] It was Erik Eriksson, foreign correspondent for Swedish Television covering the Vietnam War during the 1960s and 70s who found these images while doing research for his book on his time in Vietnam.

<<[CLU on determined but rather healthy looking McCain in a group of POWs standing ready for release. Vietnamese speaker [off] calling out the names of the POWs in turn.]>>

The article continues.  Check out the link, www.counterpunch.com

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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 11:02:41 PM »
Cleaned up, fed real food and given pain meds and told if he showed signs of mistreatment his friends wouldn't be released.


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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 11:13:48 PM »
<<Cleaned up, fed real food and given pain meds and told if he showed signs of mistreatment his friends wouldn't be released. >>

Wouldn't put it past them.  Wouldn't put it past the operators of Guantanamo Bay.  It's the nature of the beast.

The point you're missing is in all the U.S. newsreels of the "returning hero" he looks very different, like he was really fucked up.  Puts on quite a show.  But it's all an act.

Reminds me of Jane Fonda's visit to Hanoi.  When the Vietnamese guards took her on a guided tour of the prison grounds, every time she encountered an American, they bowed robotically acting as if they had been brainwashed to show automatic deference to the guards.  Then the guards let her observe the prisoners from a side alley when the prisoners had no idea they were being observed: no bowing at all to the guards.

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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2008, 01:57:17 PM »
I guess all that would be needed would be to compare this reel to other reels of the event and see if there are discrepancies.


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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 10:10:02 PM »
<<I guess all that would be needed would be to compare this reel to other reels of the event and see if there are discrepancies.>>

Well, somebody on the Obama side needs to gather up all the existing newsreel footage of the released McCain and compare the Day-1 shots of European and other news agencies before the U.S. Navy got to coach McCain on how to walk in public with the "after the coaching" newsreels.

But don't hold your breath waiting for Obama to do it.

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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2008, 10:13:50 PM »
Then the swedish reels are inconclusive.

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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 11:48:10 PM »
Then the swedish reels are inconclusive.


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We would see the Swedish newsreels and then the official US videos and they could be compared. The interpretation of it would not necessarily be the same for all who saw them.

It's not that anything would be inconclusive. The conclusions would be made by whomever saw them, and I doubt that everyone would see them in the same light.
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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 12:14:19 AM »
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We would see the Swedish newsreels and then the official US videos and they could be compared. The interpretation of it would not necessarily be the same for all who saw them.

Exactly. So touting the swede reels as prove positive that McCain was not tortured would seem to be a bit premature on Mikey's part.


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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 12:19:03 AM »
It might be convincing to some. Perhaps if we were to see him limping on his right leg on Monday and his left on Thursday, that might give it all away. You know, like Igor's hump being on one side in Act I and on the other in Act II of Young Frankenstein, that sort of thing.
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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 12:27:09 AM »
It might be convincing to some. Perhaps if we were to see him limping on his right leg on Monday and his left on Thursday, that might give it all away. You know, like Igor's hump being on one side in Act I and on the other in Act II of Young Frankenstein, that sort of thing.


How about never raiseing his hands over his head for thirty years?

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Re: Swedish Newsreel - McCain Released in Good Shape
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 12:38:04 AM »
How about never raiseing his hands over his head for thirty years?
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Well that has to be his number one best finestkind qualification, doesn't it?

Have you seen him not lifting his hands over his head for thirty years?

I never liked the way that Nixon would do that double-arm "V for Victory" thing. It made him look like a fool, when as we all know, he was a rather smart crook.

Maybe McCain just does not trust his deodorant.
 Ever think of that?

Again, if he were to forget which leg to limp on, that would bee rather definitive evidence. Please read the rest of the conversation.
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