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Who was J.B.Stoner
« on: October 07, 2008, 05:14:23 PM »
A nice guy if he likes you , if he doesn't he might put a bomb in on you , but he never killed anyone (that we know of).



Jesse Benjamin "J.B." Stoner (April 13, 1924 - April 23, 2005) was an American segregationist who in 1958 bombed the Bethel Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. He was a long-time chairman of the National States' Rights Party and publisher of its newsletter, The Thunderbolt. Stoner ran unsuccessfully as a Democrat for several political offices to promote a white supremacist agenda.

Contents [hide]
1 Biography
1.1 Early life
1.2 Education and career
1.3 Death and afterward
2 Works
2.1 Published works
2.2 Letters
2.3 Audiovisual recordings
3 References
 


[edit] Biography

[edit] Early life
Stoner came from a family which had a sight-seeing company in Lookout Mountain, Georgia, and in nearby Chattanooga. Stoner's father Jesse Benjamin Sr. died when J.B. was five and his mother Minnie died when J.B. was seventeen.

At a young age, Stoner admired segregationist politician Theodore Bilbo. Stoner was active in white supremacist groups and traveled to Washington D.C., to support Bilbo.


[edit] Education and career
A case of childhood polio, which impaired a leg, kept Stoner from serving during World War II. After the war, Stoner rechartered a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Chattanooga. Stoner once said that "being a Jew [should] be a crime punishable by death". He ran the National States' Rights Party, which attracted such fringe political figures as A. Roswell Thompson, a perennial Democratic candidate for governor of Louisiana and mayor of New Orleans.

Stoner earned a law degree, and served as the attorney for James Earl Ray. The FBI also investigated Stoner in the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. and for bombings of black churches, such as the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing.

Stoner ran for governor of Georgia in 1970. During this campaign, where he called himself the "candidate of love," he described Hitler as "too moderate", black people as an extension of the ape family, and Jews as "vipers of hell." The primary was won by civil rights supporter and future U.S. President Jimmy Carter. He then ran for the United States Senate in 1972, finishing fifth in the Democratic Party primary with over 40,000 votes. The nomination and election went to Sam Nunn.

During his Senate campaign, the FCC ruled that television stations had to play his ads due to the fairness doctrine. His ads included the word "nigger" and claims by Stoner that "The main reason why the niggers want integration is because niggers want our white women". Stoner also ran for lieutenant governor in 1974 and the United States Senate in 1980. His best showing was 73,000 votes (10 percent) in his campaign for lieutenant governor in 1974, when he sought to succeed Lester G. Maddox in Georgia's second highest constitutional office. Maddox lost the gubernatorial nomination that year to former legislator George D. Busbee, who then overwhelmed the Republican candidate, Ronnie Thompson, the mayor of Macon, in the general election.

In his 1974 lieutenant governor campaign, Stoner placed signs on the Macon Transit Company buses, which Mayor Thompson ordered removed. Stoner promptly went to federal court to secure the return of his paid signs under his First Amendment protection. He even, tongue-in-cheek, urged Georgia blacks to support his nemesis Thompson for governor. Stoner polled more votes for lieutenant governor than were cast for all four candidates in the Republican gubernatorial primary, which Thompson had only barely won. The lieutenant governor's position went to Zell Miller, a former chief-of-staff to Maddox who later became governor and U.S. senator.

In 1978, Stoner ran in the Democratic gubernatorial primary and polled 37,654 votes (5.4 percent) against Busbee, who went on to secure a second term against the Republican Rodney M. Cook of Atlanta.

Stoner was indicted for the 1958 bombing of an empty church in Birmingham, Alabama. He was then convicted in 1980. Stoner appealed for three years, and when his appeals ran out,[1] he was a fugitive for four months.[2] In 1984, he was permanently removed from the roster of lawyers who may appear before the United States Supreme Court.[3] After his release from prison in 1986,[4] Stoner ran for lieutenant governor in 1990.


[edit] Death and afterward
Until his death at eighty-one, Stoner lived in northwest Georgia at a nursing home. His left side was partially paralyzed from a stroke.[5] Stoner is buried at Forrest Hills Cemetery at the foot of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga.


[edit] Works

[edit] Published works
Stoner, J.B. [1946]. The gospel of Jesus Christ versus the Jews : Christianity's attitude toward the Jews as explained from the Holy Bible. Chattanooga, Tenn: Stoner Anti-Jewish Party, 58. OCLC 17628735. 
Stoner, J.B. [1974]. Christ not a Jew and Jews not God's chosen people. Marietta, Ga.: Thunderbolt, 11. OCLC 1674734. 

[edit] Letters
Ephemeral materials, 198-- by J B Stoner; Crusade Against Corruption. Wilcox Collection of Contemporary Political Movements, University of Kansas.


[edit] Audiovisual recordings
J.B. Stoner. J.B. Stoner : commercials, 1972-1990. Norman, OK: Julian P. Kanter Political Commercial Archive at the University of Oklahoma.
J.B., Stoner. "J.B. Stoner, National States Rights Party" Chicago, IL (1964).
Stoner, J.B. & Erwin Saul. Interview with Sarah Kessler. J.B. Stoner and Erwin Saul comment on recent violence by the National States' Rights Party and similar organizations. Date unknown. OCLC 18387322.

[edit] References
^ Associated Press (1982-08-14). "AROUND THE NATION; Conviction in Bombing In Alabama Is Upheld". New York Times.
^ UPI (1983-06-03)."AROUND THE NATION; Segregationist Gives Up To Serve Bombing Term". New York Times.
^ UPI (1984-10-04). "High Court Bars J. B. Stoner". New York Times.
^ UPI (1986-11-06). "Bomber Gets Prison Release." New York Times.
^ Holley, Joe (2005-04-28). "Virulent Segregationist J.B. Stoner Dies". Washington Post: B06.
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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 05:16:41 PM »

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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 05:40:47 PM »
Nice of them to bury him at the foot of Stone Mountain, wasn't it?

This used to be a major Confederate/crossburning racist meeting place, but I was there in 2005 and there was a rather nice assortment of arts and crafts attractions and the visitors were pretty integrated. I imagine that bothers the ghost of J.B Stoner, if there is one around. I think the Klan was reborn there in 1915, and here there are Black people clambering all over it. Got to piss him off.

The story of all the spats between the architects and the planners of Stone Mountain is a very interesting one. The first sculptor was fired, and went away to work on Rushmore, I think. Or did he do Rushmore first? The project was a US govt.-- KKK joint venture. Not many of those were ever carried out. The US Govt made special Stonewall Jackson/Stone Mountain half dollar coins and sold them for a dollar to raise money.

It's fun to climb the rock. They like to call it the largest rock in the world, but then the guides admit that Ayers Rock, in Australia is LOTS bigger, but they point out that it's not the same kind of rock. They say this like the Aussies were cheating or something, like their rock is just a rock, but Stone Mountain is a REAL STONE rock. Anyway, it's the largest chunk of limestone or whatever sort of rock it is, and it is really huge and ginormous. Anyway, no one fusses about how climbing Stone Mountain is insulting to anyone's ancestors. Some of the Aussie Aborigines are pissed about people climbing Ayers Rock, which has another name they prefer you to use, Uluru, which is not the name of the foxy Black chick on the original Star Trek. Her name was Uhuru, with an r. It's not as much fun to travel several thousand miles to climb a rock and then feel guilty about it.

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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 06:03:52 PM »
Stoner is buried at Forrest Hills Cemetery at the foot of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga.

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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 06:10:46 PM »
Oh.

In the words or Emily Latella, "never mind".

Still, Stone Mountain does have an interesting history.
Perhaps JB's ghost is not so annoyed there.

Assuming, of course, that there is a ghost and he does hang out there.
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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 06:15:44 PM »
His contemporary bomb tosser Bill Ayers is still alive last I heard.


An endorsement from JBS would be the kiss of death to anyones campaign, last time I saw him alive was on a Sally Jessie Raphiel show , he was weak and frail but able to infuriate the audience anyway. Sally had to lead him off the stage to slavage the situation. His popularity would compare with Hitlers.


So why does Bill Ayers not have this toxic effect?

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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 06:36:57 PM »
So why does Bill Ayers not have this toxic effect?

I would imagine that this was because Ayers was demonstrating against the Vietnam War, and most people now agree that 50,000 lives and bazillions of their money was wasted there.

Old JB was the last gasp of the cross-burning, n*****r-lynchin Klan, an organization which was as ideologically reprehensible as the Nazis, though not nearly so powerful.

There is also the question of notoriety: everyone has heard of the KKK. Most people have no knowledge of the Weather Underground, which was a tiny and singularly incompetent group of ineffectual anarchists.
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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 06:57:29 PM »
So why does Bill Ayers not have this toxic effect?

I would imagine that this was because Ayers was demonstrating against the Vietnam War, and most people now agree that 50,000 lives and bazillions of their money was wasted there.

Old JB was the last gasp of the cross-burning, n*****r-lynchin Klan, an organization which was as ideologically reprehensible as the Nazis, though not nearly so powerful.

There is also the question of notoriety: everyone has heard of the KKK. Most people have no knowledge of the Weather Underground, which was a tiny and singularly incompetent group of ineffectual anarchists.

The best article I ever read on the Weathermen was a cover story in the "Rolling Stone".

But who reads that?

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »
The best article I ever read on the Weathermen was a cover story in the "Rolling Stone".

But who reads that?

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I have read good articles in the Rolling Stone as well. They had some good writers back a dozen years or so ago. But I don't read them regularly, only in the library.
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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 03:58:57 AM »
The best article I ever read on the Weathermen was a cover story in the "Rolling Stone".

But who reads that?

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I have read good articles in the Rolling Stone as well. They had some good writers back a dozen years or so ago. But I don't read them regularly, only in the library.


In that rolling stone article some of the weathermen spent time discussing means to reduce the white majority , killing lots of children came up in the brainstorming , I think this is pretty radical. Perhaps this was mentioned as an example of how the thinking was running in that group.

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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 08:17:47 AM »
In that rolling stone article some of the weathermen spent time discussing means to reduce the white majority , killing lots of children came up in the brainstorming , I think this is pretty radical. Perhaps this was mentioned as an example of how the thinking was running in that group.

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The 60's radicals had some pretty goofy ideas, but they were singularly ineffective at nearly everything, other than getting the word out that obeying the draft and allowing the establishment to march their contemporaries off to Vietnam was a really bad idea. Vietnam ended when they could no longer supply the troops without repressive actions to draft the younger generation.

This wasn't caused by 'liberals', it was caused by the refusal to serve. And it was exactly what should have happened. Vietnam was unwinnable and there was no reason to fight there in the first place. The government merely followed the will of the young people, because there was no other choice.
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Re: Who was J.B.Stoner
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 09:29:17 PM »
In that rolling stone article some of the weathermen spent time discussing means to reduce the white majority , killing lots of children came up in the brainstorming , I think this is pretty radical. Perhaps this was mentioned as an example of how the thinking was running in that group.

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The 60's radicals had some pretty goofy ideas, but they were singularly ineffective at nearly everything, other than getting the word out that obeying the draft and allowing the establishment to march their contemporaries off to Vietnam was a really bad idea. Vietnam ended when they could no longer supply the troops without repressive actions to draft the younger generation.

This wasn't caused by 'liberals', it was caused by the refusal to serve. And it was exactly what should have happened. Vietnam was unwinnable and there was no reason to fight there in the first place. The government merely followed the will of the young people, because there was no other choice.


But how goofy and effective was Bill Ayers?

He is still around and still unapologetic.