Obama lawyers want the military to continue to bar openly gay people!

[sirs]

It would be interesting to know how sirs knows the degree of precision to which millions of Angelinos recycle.

News articles indicated such.  Upwards of 65% of the "Angelinos" recycle.  So, the city is going to spend an additional 1 BILLION tax dollars, they DON'T have, to send $75K garbage police to your homes, to try and make that 70%

[BT]

Where do you get $1 billion. 8 ambassadors at 75k= 600k a year and the ROI is expected to be $4.5 million a year

[sirs]

Error....that should be 1 Million

[sirs]

I should also add, those "ambassadors" are merely the foot folk.  There's a supervisor over them making around 85K, and IIRC an overall manager making upwards of 100K

[kimba1]

uhm,

people might want to keep an eye on that program and make sure this is temporary

these projects has a habit of lasting very long time after the problem is solved

it`s one of the reason california is in such a budget grind.

85k a year is a very good encentive to makes things last

[sirs]

Unfortunately Kimba, it's a Government program, facilitated by folks who just think they know better.  It won't go anywhere without some major outrage by the citizenry. 

[BT]

Even at 1 Million the city stands to be ahead of the game by $3.5 million. There is a lot of money in recycling. Especially now that it is single stream.

A tour of Denver's single-stream recycling plant

[kimba1]

I used to date someone whose does these recyling programs. if she`s any clue of the kind of people in charge of this project . Than that program is gonna have very slow progress. she totally did not understand the economic factor of recycling. she didn`t understand people would be more motivated to recycle if money was involved. her whole focus was the enviroment.

nice girl but alittle single-minded.caltrain is a incredible place to meet ladies.

[sirs]

Even at 1 Million the city stands to be ahead of the game by $3.5 million. There is a lot of money in recycling. Especially now that it is single stream.

It's 1 million they don't have to begin with, nor is it something "needed", when L.A. already does a good job of recycling

[BT]

then take it up with your councilman. On paper, it looks like a decent investment and since it is paid for with fees from the pickup service anyway it has no effect on the general fund.

For extra credit you can research the differences between enterprise and general fund accounting.

[sirs]

On paper, no one should have been able to beat the Detroit Tigers 2 years ago. 

In reality, it's bad, both fiscally, spending money they don't have, and in morals, sending tax payed trash police to tell you, what you should be doing better to recycle

[BT]

In reality, it's bad, both fiscally, spending money they don't have, and in morals, sending tax payed trash police to tell you, what you should be doing better to recycle

If you had done your homework you would realize they aren't paid from tax funds, they are paid from service fees.

What is that old saying? "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, they aren't entitled to their own facts."

[Christians4LessGvt]

If you had done your homework you would realize they aren't paid from tax funds, they are paid from service fees

whats the difference in a "service fee" and a tax?

can someone opt out of this so called "service fee"?

[BT]

can someone opt out of this so called "service fee"?

The fee in LA covers water sewer power (based on usage) and trash pickup. If the house is vacant i would assume you could drop the service.

[sirs]

In reality, it's bad, both fiscally, spending money they don't have, and in morals, sending tax payed trash police to tell you, what you should be doing better to recycle

If you had done your homework you would realize they aren't paid from tax funds, they are paid from service fees.  

Fees are the same as taxes.....good gravy.  In fact, one of the proposistions that DID pass here in CA, made that clear.  It's a NEW program Bt.  It didn't exist before.  It's an additional 1 million dollars citizens have to payout, that wasn't mandated prior.  The NEW 75K Government employees didn't exist either, nor did the supervisor's position.  

The only opinion here is that it's not a needed program, in any way shape or form, expect it does dovetail with the mentality with those elites that simply know better than the rest of theserf, and need to be better "educated" for their own good......DESPITE the fact they already do a good job of recycling.  It'd be marginally different if the city was horrible in such, but they're not