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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 11:49:59 PM »
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Except it was all Bush's fault when he was President!

Yeah that was a silly argument too!

yeah, I guess Obama is silly too

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2011, 02:29:49 AM »
>>You do realize that you can write out a check for the difference and send it off to DC, right? They will always take extra money. This way, you can put your money where your mouth is and go ahead and pay the tax<<

You seem to make a habit of missing the point.

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 12:06:50 PM »
>>You do realize that you can write out a check for the difference and send it off to DC, right? They will always take extra money. This way, you can put your money where your mouth is and go ahead and pay the tax<<

You seem to make a habit of missing the point.

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you mean the point about there being more than enough money to pay for 10 wars if they stop wasting it on Stimulus, pork projects, earmarks, ObamaCare and other SOCIALIST projects and Democrat give-aways?

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 12:14:38 PM »
This is absurd.
 My reaction will be the same as always: invest in an energy/natural resources fund.


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Duh.

So you are saying that saying something theoretical and essentially useless is inferior to a concrete suggestion that would perhaps benefit others?

I suggest that when one sees that the price of gasoline goes up and the price of gold rises, that it makes sense to benefit by investing in a natural resources fund. I believe that this is bound to be more useful than calling anyone a "dickhead".
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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 01:01:43 PM »
Is There Enough Oil to Pay Our Debt?

By Jeff Rubin on Wed, 5 Jan 2011

2010 left us all with a mountain of debt. Whether you're a taxpayer in the UK, Ireland or the US, it must already be pretty clear that you?re on the hook for a lot of IOUs borrowed from your future. You may not have borrowed the money yourself, but your government has already done it on your behalf, running up massive, record-setting deficits.

What's not clear is exactly how your government is going to pay that debt back.

With students already rioting in London over huge tuition increases, and general strikes the order of the day in places like Athens and Madrid, chances are slim that incumbent governments will survive long enough to cut their way to fiscal solvency. That's not to say the fiscal brakes aren't on (they are at least everywhere but in the US). But the deficits are so gargantuan (as an example, Ireland's is equal to one third of the country's GDP) that the twin tasks of slashing spending and hiking taxes could last decades, provoking all kinds of social and political push-back during that time.

Given austerity's slim chance at success, you might ask why government borrowing rates in the bond market, though rising, aren't much higher. History would suggest that the yield on a ten-year US Treasury bond should be close to double what it is, given the size of Washington's borrowing program.

The reason it's not is that creditors and debtors both share a common belief that a powerful economic recovery lies just around the corner?one so powerful, in fact, that tax revenues will suddenly fill government coffers and let bondholders be paid the huge sums they are owed while at the same time sparing taxpayers an otherwise draconian fate.

The only problem is that the economic growth everyone is counting on is powered by oil.
And as you've probably noticed, that?s getting more and more expensive to burn.

The minute global industrial production recovered from the recession, oil prices were suddenly on the verge of triple digits. That's not an accident, since the two go hand in hand. Global oil demand is up 2.5 million barrels per day from last year. Any further increases in oil demand and oil prices will be trading comfortably in triple-digit range.

That suddenly makes all that government debt very energy intensive. It will take huge amounts of energy, particularly oil, to achieve the growth rates that all the near-bankrupt governments around the world need to even service their debt, let alone repay it.

So consider just how sustainable economic growth would be in a world of oil prices of $100 to $225 per barrel. Because those are the price parameters we'd be facing in the unlikely event that we actually see the kind of economic growth that bond markets and public treasuries around the world are so desperately depending on.

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 01:51:55 PM »
Any further increases in oil demand and oil prices will be trading comfortably in triple-digit range.

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UNLESS there is an increase in supply. There are all those deposits off the coast of Brazil. It is pretty hard to predict this, really.

For the time being, I recommend investing in Natural Resources funds.
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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 03:45:17 PM »
You seem to make a habit of missing the point.

The point being that instead of paying it yourself, voluntarily, you would rather force everyone else to do so at the point of a gun?
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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 07:15:10 PM »
What's the matter with you?

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 08:07:19 PM »
What's the matter with you?

bsb

I think that the real problem here is a socialist mind is wired different than a normal persons mind and that is why you can't grasp the point. This is similar to trying to debate (or even understand) when Nancy Pelosi says unemployment benefits create jobs.

Nancy Pelosi- Unemployment Creates Jobs

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 08:18:48 PM »
More accurately, Unemployment creates need for more Government jobs and intervention
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 08:22:56 PM »
More accurately, Unemployment creates need for more Government jobs and intervention

But my point is even that trying to have a rational discussion with a Socialist like Pelosi, and I guess BSB, is fruitless as they can't grasp (because their brains are wired different) capitalism and what built this great nation into the great nation that we once were. And that socialist government policies are crippling us.

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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 08:24:39 PM »
Definately can't argue with that last point on socialist policies
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Re: shhhhh........gas prices going thru the roof
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2011, 08:56:08 PM »
More accurately, Unemployment creates need for more Government jobs and intervention

How so?