The Palestinians of 1967

[BT]

It's amazing how young these old countries are:
Lebanon-1943
Syria-1946
Jordan-1946
Turkey-1923
Iraq-1932
Israel-1948
Egypt-1922
Iran-1501

[BT]

If a land is occupied but not annexed, who owns it?

[sirs]

The country occupying them....specifically if they're being occupied as a means of defending themselves.  It sure as hell isn't Palestinian land

[BT]

We occupied Iraq. Did we own it?

[sirs]

Nope, we've already said so, as we largely took care of the threat

[BT]

Nope, we've already said so, as we largely took care of the threat

Fact is we legally occupied it under the auspices of a UN resolution. The same can not be said for the Golan Heights.

[sirs]

Doesn't matter.  Israel took it, in defending their country.....end of story

[BT]

Doesn't matter.  Israel took it, in defending their country.....end of story

Sure it matters. Israel is an outlaw state. Since when do we support outlaw states?

[sirs]

LOL.......you, go with that one.  Whatever makes you sleep better, I suppose

[BT]

LOL.......you, go with that one.  Whatever makes you sleep better, I suppose

Perhaps you can show the class where any international authority including the UN has recognized that Israels occupation and annexation of the Golan Heights is legal under the Geneva Convention and or UN resolution.

[sirs]

The UN has no credibility......it lost it a long time ago.  Just because, no one outside of the U.S. is supporting Israel's right to exist & defend itself, doesn't make what everyone else say legit.

And since there can be no peace, (you made that crystal clear to me) Israel has every right to hold lands it gained defending itself

[BT]

The UN has no credibility......it lost it a long time ago.  Just because, no one outside of the U.S. is supporting Israel's right to exist & defend itself, doesn't make what everyone else say legit.

And since there can be no peace, (you made that crystal clear to me) Israel has every right to hold lands it gained defending itself

The US did not veto the resolution condemning Israels annexation of the Golan Heights. They stand alone on that one.

[sirs]

I don't have a problem with that.  Israel has an absolute right to defend itself, and use any lands they can, that were used against them

[BT]

I don't have a problem with that.  Israel has an absolute right to defend itself, and use any lands they can, that were used against them

So you have no problems supporting a rogue nation. What is sad is Israel could defend itself no matter where the borders were. That is what a superior air force gives you.

[sirs]

Not when the borders in question allow for much greater death and destruction potential from rocket & mortar attacks, from an enemy sworn to to see your destruction.  Ask Pooch if, from a military standpoint, he thinks, it's "no biggie" to have a line of demarcation right next to your population centers, or extended many miles away, helped with a level of elevation, as a better defense

So, what's sad here, is a concurring that there can be no peace, and yet to force the nation trying to defend itself to reduce its level of defense