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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2011, 04:22:13 AM »
Israel is certainly capable of retaliating tenfold to rocket and mortar attacks. They have even been known to pre-preemptively strike at possible danger. Isn't that how the 67 war started?

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #106 on: June 28, 2011, 10:29:42 AM »
They have even been known to pre-preemptively strike at possible danger. Isn't that how the 67 war started?

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #107 on: June 28, 2011, 11:11:27 AM »
Israel is certainly capable of retaliating tenfold to rocket and mortar attacks. They have even been known to pre-preemptively strike at possible danger. Isn't that how the 67 war started?

Sure, they can retaliate, that's what they've been doing.  Thankfully with the extended lands, attacks have been far less costly in civilian lives lost, and thus less risk to Israeli soldiers as well.  This is kind of a common sense thing
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #108 on: June 28, 2011, 02:14:51 PM »
Israel is certainly capable of retaliating tenfold to rocket and mortar attacks. They have even been known to pre-preemptively strike at possible danger. Isn't that how the 67 war started?

Sure, they can retaliate, that's what they've been doing.  Thankfully with the extended lands, attacks have been far less costly in civilian lives lost, and thus less risk to Israeli soldiers as well.  This is kind of a common sense thing

Common sense says that if you wanted to uses the heights as a buffer you wouldn't put Israeli settlements in the buffer area. So much for that rationale.


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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #109 on: June 28, 2011, 02:22:18 PM »
The rationale is that the boundry is AWAY from populated regions, not simply pockets of settlements.  So it works just fine

But I do get a kick out of this effort to paint Israel as the "rogue outlaw nation".  How dare they defend themselves...the bastards.  Hamas and the like, should be pleased at the end roads they've made with many here in America
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #110 on: June 28, 2011, 02:29:26 PM »
The rationale is that the boundry is AWAY from populated regions, not simply pockets of settlements.  So it works just fine

But I do get a kick out of this effort to paint Israel as the "rogue outlaw nation".  How dare they defend themselves...the bastards.  Hamas and the like, should be pleased at the end roads they've made with many here in America

Israel moved 20k people into the Golan, what is the cut-off for population centers. And isn't moving just one settler into harms way contrary to your rationale that the Golan is kept for just defensive measures?

And what about the water?

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #111 on: June 28, 2011, 02:37:32 PM »
What is the population of Israel?  And what is the population of its more populated locations?  What's the biggest population of any of these settlements?  Then you'll have a better answer

But more specifically to your earlier inquiry, that I just became aware of, it would seem Isreal DID annex the territory as theirs.  So, I guess this is all moot now
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2011, 02:40:35 PM »
The Golan Heights Law is the Israeli law which applies Israel's government and laws to the Golan Heights. It was ratified by the Knesset on December 14, 1981. The law was condemned internationally [1] and determined null and void by United Nations Security Council Resolution 497.

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2011, 02:42:18 PM »
Yea, we already got your continued use of the UN, and the non-credibility it currently possesses.  The point was did Israel ever annex the territory, and the answer is YES, they did
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2011, 03:01:30 PM »
Not only is Israel in violation of the UN Charter, they are also in violation of the Geneva Convention.

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2011, 03:18:14 PM »
Whatever makes you sleep better
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2011, 03:25:43 PM »
Whatever makes you sleep better

I always get a good nights sleep after spending a long day educating you.  ;)

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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #117 on: June 28, 2011, 03:28:03 PM »
As long as it makes you sleep better.  I can see how irrational rationalizations can cause alot of fatigue.
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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2011, 03:32:58 PM »
As long as it makes you sleep better.  I can see how irrational rationalizations can cause alot of fatigue.

Seems to me you are the one doing the rationalization. Did you know Resolution 497 denouncing Israels Annexation of the Golan Passed Unanimously 15-0 including a yes vote by the United States. Under Reagan.


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Re: The Palestinians of 1967
« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »
No one recognized the Israeli annexation of Golan. I suppose that the Israelis might be able to bribe Vanuatu or Kiribati if they were desperate for "international" support.
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