We Need Tax Increases

[Kramer]

People that don't pay taxes need to pay up

People that make under $75,000 need to pay more

Child tax credits need to be reduced in half

Retired people need to pay higher rates

[BT]

why?

[Kramer]

why?

Because the people that fall into these areas use the most government services, exude more strain on government finances
and our nation can't sustain current spending levels and deficits without increasing revenues and most of the current
revenue streams are over taxed and stressed (these people pay more than they should and likely don't use much of
the services they are paying for) and nobody seems willing to have their services cut. Therefore the only way to pay for all
these peoples wants & desires is to pay as you go not make future generations pay for today's extravaganza party. So why
not bill the main users because life isn't fair and free rides are unrealistic. Then and only then their thirst for government
might be quenched and once and for all sanity might be restored to our way of life and for the greater good of our society.

[BT]

So every body pays 15% from the first dollar on income with no deductibles, period.

I'd rather do it as a sales tax, get the underground economy too.

Make it 20% and throw in healthcare.

[Kramer]

So every body pays 15% from the first dollar on income with no deductibles, period.

I'd rather do it as a sales tax, get the underground economy too.

Make it 20% and throw in healthcare.

are you saying eliminate income tax and have a 20% sales tax and you get free health care?

sure whatever it takes

[BT]

Yep

[Plane]

  Our government has passed some laws that entitle some of us to payment , te number payed and the amount payed can grow whether the resorce that they are payed from can or not.

   Can it be that no possible tax sceme can outproduce the demand of entitlements?

[sirs]

So every body pays 15% from the first dollar on income with no deductibles, period.

I'd rather do it as a sales tax, get the underground economy too.

Make it 20% and throw in healthcare.

I've seen government "efficiency and services", not to mention the Constitution.  They (& you) can keep your healthcare.  I'll take care of my own, thank you very much

[Kramer]

Yep

I have no interest in government run health care so 15% will be fine and dandy.

[BT]

So every body pays 15% from the first dollar on income with no deductibles, period.

I'd rather do it as a sales tax, get the underground economy too.

Make it 20% and throw in healthcare.

I've seen government "efficiency and services", not to mention the Constitution.  They (& you) can keep your healthcare.  I'll take care of my own, thank you very much

Help yourself. But i don't recall Romneycare being declared unconstitutional. Perhaps you can provide a link.

[sirs]

Never claimed a state couldn't try it on their own, since what's not constitutionally delegated to the Fed, can be provided for, by the states, if the people so wish it.  Perhaps you can provide a link where I did

[Kramer]

So every body pays 15% from the first dollar on income with no deductibles, period.

I'd rather do it as a sales tax, get the underground economy too.

Make it 20% and throw in healthcare.

I've seen government "efficiency and services", not to mention the Constitution.  They (& you) can keep your healthcare.  I'll take care of my own, thank you very much

Help yourself. But i don't recall Romneycare being declared unconstitutional. Perhaps you can provide a link.

Anyway you slice it government run health care is still government run!

[BT]

Never claimed a state couldn't try it on their own, since what's not constitutionally delegated to the Fed, can be provided for, by the states, if the people so wish it.  Perhaps you can provide a link where I did

Perhaps you can show where i stated that the medical care would be provided for at the federal level, thus justifying your constitutional mantra.

In fact i stated that the states are best suited for collecting consumption based taxes and are more responsive to their respective citizenry as to what those taxes were used for.

[sirs]

So, as I said, you can keep your government healthcare.  I'll take care of my own

[BT]

So, as I said, you can keep your government healthcare.  I'll take care of my own

If my state so chooses to provide or not provide, based on the wishes of its own electors. The constitution not being a factor in that decision.