Jim DeMint is absolutely correct

[BT]

no death experience just a knowledge of facing my mortality.

That seems to be the common denominator among those who have had a close call.

[BT]

So what's the story, is Sirs on suspension or not?

Yes

[BT]

So what's the story, is Sirs on suspension or not?

i think it was a joke...wasnt it?

No

[kimba1]

are you back to work yet?

yep
it`ll take abit more then that to get me to not work. but i am workinmg less. I think my pills are making me forget things.
super hard keep my schedule with my medication. I forgot to put my patch on once and in a few days I went through withdrawls. nasty stuff. bp shot up 30 points screwed up my sleep royaly.

I got some much medicine in me I barely have a pulse. it`s superlight
I have to do afew jumping jack every once in awhile to not pass out sometimes.hopefully this is asign thy`ll start weaning me off this stuff

[Christians4LessGvt]

No

So you hammer SIRS in the back and forth discussion
for not providing an "exact quote" about what you guys
were bickering about, but then you suspend the guy over
a charge where you yourself can not provide an exact quote
where he calls you a "liar" as you claim he did?

Do you not see that as a bit ironic?

I think you should take a deep breath,
sleep on it, step away from the situation
and reconsider.

You were way too involved in that argument
to be able to render a fair judgment. But
this is your circus and it's your decision.

[BT]

No

So you hammer SIRS in the back and forth discussion
for not providing an "exact quote" about what you guys
were bickering about, but then you suspend the guy over
a charge where you yourself can not provide an exact quote
where he calls you a "liar" as you claim he did?

Do you not see that as a bit ironic?

I think you should take a deep breath,
sleep on it, step away from the situation
and reconsider.

You were way too involved in that argument
to be able to render a fair judgment. But
this is your circus and it's your decision.

I can provide the exact quote where he claimed i misrepresented his position.

Must have missed the part where I clearly said "IN PARTICULAR" & "ESPECIALLY", and no where did I claim "exclusively".  Then again, when the goal is to misrepresent  sirs, in any way possible, this sure fits the bill

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=15408.msg127380#msg127380

mis?rep?re?sent
verb \(ˌ)mis-ˌre-pri-ˈzent\
Definition of MISREPRESENT
transitive verb
1
: to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair <misrepresented the facts>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misrepresent

[Christians4LessGvt]

then why did you change the word to "liar" when
SIRS never used that word until you said it?

If "misrepresent" means the exact same thing
(which it actually does not)
why BT did you feel the need to change the word?

You are so hung up on "quotes" but then you
change wording to get the "indictment"?

You cant ask for the quote because what you
claim he said would not be there.

Very ironic.

It's obvious why YOU...not SIRS had to change the word
to the much more inflammatory "liar" instead of "misrepresent".

How is it that the much more inflammatory "liar"
is used in discussions between others and
nothing happens? But this time the word
"liar" was not even used and SIRS get
suspended?

I have several times asked XO to
"quit lying" about my positions.
NOTHING.
No suspension.
No nothing.
(and of course nothing should have happened....that's normal discourse)

In fairness when you discuss issues are you not "fair game"?
Why as a debater, not moderator, are you different than XO or anyone else?
As a debater you should hold your own and not suddenly switch to moderator to "win"
Do you need the "extra help" where if you get pissed you throw someone out?
Do we need to "walk on eggshells" in debates with you and treat you different?

This is a huge overreaction to SIRS stating you are "misrepresenting".
I can see if he says "BT you're an F-ing LIAR" or something like that.
But "you're misrepresenting"......come on.....that's ridiculous!

You guys are both good guys that mean so much to this place,
please reconsider...its the holiday weekend.....
24-48 hours is enough time for a cooling off period
and then lets move on to other issues we all love to debate.

[BT]

1. There is little difference between a misrepresentation and a lie.
2. the quote i provided indicates serial misrepresentation (lies)
3. Sirs could not provide a quote indicating the lie, the best he could do was explain how he came to that conclusion.
4. He hurled the charge without seeking clarification before hurling the charge
5. The archives can show a pattern of him doing this.

In fairness when you discuss issues are you not "fair game"?
Why as a debater, not moderator, are you different than XO or anyone else?
As a debater you should hold your own and not suddenly switch to moderator to "win"
Do you need the "extra help" where if you get pissed you throw someone out?
Do we need to "walk on eggshells" in debates with you and treat you different?

You might have a point there. And i struggled with it. And basically i came to the conclusion that i don't have to put up with being called a liar (misrepresenter) if the accuser can't even come up with the lie (misrepresentation), even if i am a moderator.

But the larger lesson was for all members to think twice before calling someone a liar, dumbass, communist, cripple or any other off topic slur that they would hurl with the intent to insult or hurt instead of furthering the debate.

But apparently that lesson did not succeed, what with debating the difference between the meaning of misrepresentation vs lie, or why it even matters.

I'll lift Sirs suspension.

[Christians4LessGvt]

But the larger lesson was for all members to think twice before calling someone a liar, dumbass, communist, cripple or any other off topic slur that they would hurl with the intent to insult or hurt instead of furthering the debate.

Point well taken....
I agree we all need to make an effort to be more "civil"...myself included.
I know it's a balancing act for you that none of us would want.
Thanks BT.