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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 01:37:01 AM »
If this were true of all Democrats, which it is not, then how would this make Gingrich qualified to be president? He IS a wiseass, and he seems dedicated to self-destruction. Neither are attributes of a successful president.

Hasn't stopped the current occupant, and we sure as hell can't get much worse
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 01:39:16 AM »
XO

No one is born to be President. To be trained from diaper wearing days to be able to meet the challenges that will come 40 years hence.

What we hope is that the person we elect has good character, is trustworthy and has enough innate intelligence to act on our behalf in a satisfactory manner

Call elections an act of faith.

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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 05:28:04 AM »
"What we hoe is that the person we elect has good character, is trustworthy........."


That doesn't bode well for old Newt. 


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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2011, 12:11:06 PM »
Things could get much, much worse. Mexico in the 1980's, Argentina in 2002. Mexico had runaway inflation, Argentina's currency went from $1.00 to 33¢, the president was forced out and his successor was forced out, the public transportation shut down and hundreds of factories closed. What we have here is a recession caused by a housing bust, and those ALWAYS take 5 to ten years to get back to normal, any economist will tell you that. Obama is doing a better job than McCain could.

Gingrich was thrown out of the House for a reason: his own party thought he sucked, and so did the rest of the country after he tried unsuccessfully to impeach Clinton for peccadilloes far less serious than the  Newtster was himself guilty of, and shutting the government down and throwing a hissyfit over not being able to leave US1 through the front door. The  guy is a petulant jerk.

If he gets the nomination, we will all be reminded of that and all the crap he has done recently to peddle influence all over DC. If the goal is to pare the excess from the budget, we hardly need some schmuck that runs up a half million on a Tiffany's account. We really don't need a Queen: Nancy Reagan was bad enough, and she at least managed not to wear mink or sable coats. It is also probably a good idea to mistrust any guy who decides in his sixties to become a Catholic, based on the likelihood that he is either a fanatic or up to something Machiavellian.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2011, 01:06:35 PM »
Gingrich wasn't thrown out of the house.

You keep saying Obama would be doing a better job than McCain, as if this is proven fact. The truth is McCain would work better with the legislative branch than Obama has, because McCain is a born compromiser.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. Peccadilloes weren't charged.

Lots of people come back to religion later in life. His wife is Catholic.

The odds are damn favorable that you wouldn't be voting for Newt anyway. It would be nice if you just said it was because he is a Republican, then your reasons would be true.

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2011, 01:58:42 PM »
I would not vote for any of the Republicans other than perhaps Huntsman. he is the only one that is not some sort of ultra rightie clown.

I do not blame Obama for the Recession. It is the sort of real estate based thing that takes more than one term to solve.

McCain is not so much a compromiser as a total whore. Obama has compromised again and again with the Republicans. They have conceded NOTHING substantial to him. Why NOT raise the taxes on hedge fund managers and bazillionaires? It is not like most of them has created any jobs.
 
I am not a believer in a government so small that it can be bought off by huge corporations. I am for efficient government that takes care of the people, by which I mean makes it possible for everyone to get decent health care. Wall Street needs to be regulated better. There should be no banks too big to fail. I do not always agree with the Democrats, but when I do not, the Republicans never seem to have anything better.


A two party system has many flaws. If we are to have one, it would be better is neither of those two parties were the current Republican Party, for reasons that should be obvious. No country should ever electe anyone to government that thinks that government is inherently the problem, just as no one should choose a mechanic who believes that cars can never be repaired.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2011, 02:01:06 PM »
Gingrich dropped the Speaker position and left the House one day after he was elected to his 11th term. Does anyone really believe that was voluntary? If you do, did you also know he was an Islamonazi? That's right, he was born al-Newtassad Gingashar, in north east Jordan.

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2011, 02:47:43 PM »
Newt dropped out of the speaker position because the young turks who came in with the Contract with America sweep turned against him.

Not sure where you get he was born in Jordan.




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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2011, 02:58:27 PM »
The Jordan part is anyone who believes he left the House voluntarily. He didn't. Nor was he born in Jordan.

The guy was kicked out of the House Of Representatives by his own party. That's the truth of it.

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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2011, 02:59:07 PM »
BsB also needs a refresher course that is the actions that make one an Islamonazi....not his birth place
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2011, 03:11:42 PM »
In fact, sirs and CU`4 could both be Islamonazi moles,
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2011, 04:22:01 PM »
Minus our actions to the contrary, of course
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2011, 05:08:40 PM »
The Jordan part is anyone who believes he left the House voluntarily. He didn't. Nor was he born in Jordan.

The guy was kicked out of the House Of Representatives by his own party. That's the truth of it.

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So what was the roll call on the ouster vote? What he faced was losing the Speakership. He choose to step down instead of taking a back seat. So yeah he left voluntarily.

Ethics sanctions

Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Speaker Gingrich during his term, including claiming tax-exempt status for a college course run for political purposes. Following an investigation by the House Ethics Committee Gingrich was sanctioned US$300,000.[64] Gingrich acknowledged in January 1997 that "In my name and over my signature, inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee". [65] The House Ethics Committee concluded that inaccurate information supplied to investigators represented "intentional or ... reckless" disregard of House rules.[66] Special Counsel James M. Cole concluded that Gingrich violated federal tax law and had lied to the ethics panel in an effort to force the committee to dismiss the complaint against him. The full committee panel did not agree whether tax law had been violated[67] and left that issue up to the IRS.[68] In 1999, the IRS cleared the organizations connected with the "Renewing American Civilization" courses under investigation for possible tax violations.[69][70]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich#Ethics_sanctions

Leadership challenge

In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Gingrich's public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the attempted coup.[71]

On July 11, Gingrich met with senior Republican leadership to assess the situation. He explained that under no circumstance would he step down. If he was voted out, there would be a new election for Speaker, which would allow for the possibility that Democrats—along with dissenting Republicans—would vote in Dick Gephardt as Speaker. On July 16, Paxon offered to resign his post, feeling that he had not handled the situation correctly, as the only member of the leadership who had been appointed to his position—by Gingrich—instead of elected.[72]
[edit] Resignation
Gingrich's official portrait as Speaker

Republicans lost five seats in the House in the 1998 elections—the worst midterm performance in 64 years for a party that didn't hold the presidency. Polls showed that Gingrich and the Republican Party's attempt to remove President Clinton from office was deeply unpopular among voters.[73] Gingrich suffered much of the blame for the election loss. Facing a rebellion in the Republican caucus, he announced on November 5, 1998 that he would not only stand down as Speaker, but would leave the House as well. Gingrich made this announcement only a day after being elected to an 11th term from his district. Commenting on his departure, Gingrich said, "I'm willing to lead but I'm not willing to preside over people who are cannibals. My only fear would be that if I tried to stay, it would just overshadow whoever my successor is."[74]

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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2011, 08:42:35 PM »
He threw a major hissy fit, took his baseball and bat and went home. The Newtster is equal parts prima donna and dipshit.
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2011, 09:17:37 PM »
Which is different than being ousted by his party.