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Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« on: March 22, 2012, 01:55:36 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/trayvon-martin-case-timeline-of-events/
In summary, here is what happened:
Trayvon Martin, a Black teenage boy from Miami Gardens (in the same area where my university is located), was staying with a relative in a gated community in Sanford, in Central Florida. He went out one evening to the convenience store, bought a some tea and Skittles, and was stopped by George Zimmerman, a Hispanic "neighborhood watch" type, who stopped him. He was talking on his cellphone with his girlfriend when Zimmerman started following him. Then she heard Treyvon cry out, Zimmerman say something that5 sounded like a "racial epithet", and a shot. Then silence.

Zimmerman who weighs 200 lbs, said that he was threatened and shot Martin in self-defense. The Sanford police actually took this at face value and Zimmerman has not been arrested or charged. Apparently Zimmerman being wet and having a bloody nose was added by the police AFTER the report was issued.

Zimmerman reported the hoodie-wearing Martin as "suspicious" and said he was going to follow him to the cops. The dispatcher told him not to do this. He did it anyway.

This is what the  FL Legislature  got for its "Stand your ground" law.

I have noted that on TV crime shows, anyone wearing a hoodie is a bad guy. Good guys never wear hoodies.
About the only thing that I could say against Treyvon Martin is that he should have refrained from being a hoodie, and refrained from being Black. Of course, it is also true that people in gated communities often live there because they are scaredy cats and paranoid. Otherwise, they would not pay extra to live in their silly little fortresses.

Zimmerman should have not been carrying a gun. Perhaps a taser or pepper spray, not a gun. Whatever Trayvon was guilty of, it did not merit the death penalty. Death by gun nut is not the prescribed death penalty, even in Florida.
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 02:01:26 PM »
and..........?  sorry Xo, 1 CCW holder doesn't negate the thousands upon thousands of CCW holders who do act responsibly, safely, and DO stop crimes.  That's not an opinion, that's a FACT, as per the FBI crime statistics, you couldn't be bothered with when presented earlier

This fella will likely have his CCW revoked, but until a clear investigation is completed, we don't know what happened outside of Zimmerman shouldn't have been following Martin, much less this being a supposed hate crime     :o
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 02:11:56 PM »
Oooh. Shoot a guy and lose your gun permit. That is pretty harsh.

He seems to be guilty of unprovoked murder. How dangerous is a teenage kid talking on a cellphone? How could anyone say that they were in danger of some kid gabbing in a phone?
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 02:41:21 PM »
Oooh. Shoot a guy and lose your gun permit. That is pretty harsh.

If the investigation deems self defense, then he won't evel lose that.  Best wait for all the facts to be presented. 

And if I am EVER confronted by someone who is making any kind of threat to my life, or my family's life, or my friends' life, and they "reach for a phone", I will aim center mass & shoot, and not think twice.  Thinking twice allows them to pull out what could easily be not a phone


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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 03:12:21 PM »
Treyvon Martin was just standing there or walking along, chatting on the phone. The conversation reveals that he was not confronting anyone.

Zimmerman was the one who challenged him.

He had no business carrying a gun
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 03:23:02 PM »
Not defending Zimmerman or condemning Martin.  I'm the one actually referencing the need for the investigation to finish.  Until then....innocent until proven guilty, and as long as he followed all the laws of the state, had all the rights to carrying a gun
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 03:36:47 PM »
It will prove to be stupid for this fool to be roaming about with a gun.

Stupid and legal, perhaps, but stupid.
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 03:39:11 PM »
I'll side with legal, since staticisally, most every CCW holder is acutely responsible and safety conscious, ESPCIALLY when it comes to handling firearms
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 03:43:50 PM »
What the poo is a CCW?

I don't speak Gun Nut.

This kid is dead because that fool was wandering around with a gun.
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 03:54:13 PM »
Carry Concealed Weapon

This kid is dead......the investigation will determine if he
- was a fool
- wandering vs patrolling
- followed the laws of Florida
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 04:41:32 PM »
I doubt if he feels much like a genius.

There is a movement to fire the police chief who failed to arrest him.
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 08:58:19 PM »
I doubt ANYONE of us knows how he feels currently.  Are you trying to add mind reader to your amateur fortune telling aspirations??

And what does the Police Chief have to do with any of this??  At one time there was a movement to lynch black people.     :o
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 10:30:08 PM »
Maybe wrong but the police can't do anything once "stand your ground " is enacted. It's all heresay what's true but the self defense claim is pretty solid till somebody produce a high quality phone video.

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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 11:01:23 PM »
The Chief of police is the guy who did not arrest Zimmerman, or even call him  in for detailed questioning.

And now his ass is grass.
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Re: Teenage Trayvon Martin shot by gun nut in Sanford, FL
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 11:04:44 PM »
So gun nuts actually use the words CCW as a noun?

There goes a Carry Concealed Weapon.

I feel safer now that I am a Carry Concealed Weapon.

Let's all be Carry Concealed weapons.

Dumb.

First they run around killing innocent kids for wearing hoodies, then they destroy the language.

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