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Emanual Steward has died
« on: October 25, 2012, 11:51:41 PM »
I just found out about this and it is like a body blow. He gave expert analysis on HBO boxing and really was the go to guy for an explanation of any controversy or arcane rule and was always there for the big fights. He was a real class act and a helluva trainer.

 http://www.freep.com/article/20121025/SPORTS18/121025065/?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS18


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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 12:50:10 AM »
Awe I hate to hear that.
He was a boxing legend.
He had a positive impact on so many inner city youth.
He will be missed.
Rest In Peace.....

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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 12:14:37 PM »
Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.

Boxing training is good exercise if you eliminate getting hit from the routine. I find it impossible to watch.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 05:04:06 PM »
Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.

Most people who ever step in a boxing ring to box suffer no medical injury.

You'd probably like to outlaw it.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 06:42:41 PM »
Let's see a list of championship boxers who have lived to be 65 or older without obvious mental damage.

Boxing makes you stupid. The more you get hit in the head, the stupider you get.

I would certainly outlaw it as an Olympic sport.

I fail to see how watching two guys trying to beat each other's brains out is entertaining for anyone.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 07:14:34 PM »
Here's a thought....don't watch it.   ::)   If others enjoy it (I'm not one of them, by the way), what's that to you?
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 10:07:19 PM »
Let's see a list of championship boxers who have lived to be 65 or older without obvious mental damage.
Boxing makes you stupid. The more you get hit in the head, the stupider you get.

Lots of things have risks....skydiving, mountain climbing, racing cars, eating too much food,
eating too little food, eating unhealthy foods, drinking alcohol, smoking, driving a car, playing sports,
and a million other things....and last thing most people want is some know-it-all liberal control freak
tellling them what they can and can not do.....get some therapy for the mental disorder and leave
people alone.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 10:22:17 PM »
There is a difference between pro boxing and mountain climbing and other dangerous sports, and that is that has become an industry. People rarely box those that they do not know for their own amusement. The purpose of mountain climbing is to get to the top, the purpose of auto racing is to come in first. The purpose of boxing is to render the other guy senseless for money.

I am not against gambling, but I am against casinos because the games are all rigged. In boxing most of the money goes to the gamblers and the promoters.

I really doubt that it will be outlawed, but it is a singularly mean and nasty sport.

I have an absolute right to be against it.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 12:08:07 AM »
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Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.

Many? Can you back that up?

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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2012, 12:23:17 AM »
Joe Louis and Mohammad Ali were seriously impaired. There have been many others.

Surely you cannot believe that a boxing career does not damage many of those that engage in it.
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2012, 12:46:09 AM »
What Medicine is learning about concussions in recent years makes them seem more and more undesireable.
Not just the big knockouts , but the accumulated damage of many smaller concussions.

Before science got involved, "palookas and punch drunks" , were words that show the common wisdom noticing this effect.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-collision-syndrome
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2012, 02:59:54 AM »
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Surely you cannot believe that a boxing career does not damage many of those that engage in it.

No, I do not believe that many boxers become mentally challenged. That's ridiculous.

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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2012, 03:37:23 AM »
I really doubt that it will be outlawed, but it is a singularly mean and nasty sport.

I have an absolute right to be against it
.

Who's argueing that you don't have such a right?   :o
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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2012, 01:22:18 PM »
There is a lot of money in boxing.

Does it need strict regulation?

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Re: Emanual Steward has died
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2012, 01:56:27 PM »
Boxing is lucrative because of people who bet on boxing matches. There is a lot of abuse of boxers by managers and others. I suppose some regulations are needed, but I have no idea what they might be in any precise terms.
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