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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2014, 02:47:23 PM »
You cannot guarantee that your guns will not end up in the hands of some nutcase after you are gone.

The number of public shootings has been going up lately.
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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2014, 02:54:54 PM »
No one can guarantee anything.  Despite MORE people who own guns, and MORE CCW holders, violent crime continues to come down.  Only in those regions with strict gun control and so called "gun free zones", are shootings going up.  Bad guys may be bad guys, but generally not stupid.  They'll head to the regions/locations where law abiding folk are less able to defend themselves
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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2014, 06:41:56 PM »
Violent crime may be dropping, but this is most likely simply because the average Americas is older. Also, we have fewer veterans as a percentage of the population, and ex-military people tend to use guns more than those who are not veterans.

The incidence of mass shootings in schools and public places seems to be growing, however.

The US is far, far more violent a country than Spain and the rest of W. Europe.
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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2014, 03:51:00 AM »
Violent crime may be dropping, but this is most likely simply because the average Americas is older.

That's a pure unadulterated guess/rationalization, not to mention no tangible correlation.    ::)


Also, we have fewer veterans as a percentage of the population

And..........what's that supposed to mean, on top of how does that refute any of the facts still yet to be refuted??


and ex-military people tend to use guns more than those who are not veterans.

More the point, that they are more comfortable around guns than non veterans.  Again, so what?  I realize this effort to rationalize current reality and facts related to guns in this country, but this is like rambling.  You're not being coherent in whatever point you're trying to make.  What fact are you trying to refute, and with what?


The incidence of mass shootings in schools and public places seems to be growing, however.

"seems"??.....yea, in so called "gun free zones" perhaps.  That's because criminals are more comfortable and confident they can get away with more killing, when their targets are more likely to be disarmed


The US is far, far more violent a country than Spain and the rest of W. Europe.

Putting aside the fact, that you yourself have acknolwedged that violent crime is coming down, despite more people owning guns in this country, the fact still remains that guns save far, far more lives in this country, than they take

But I thank you for actually making an effort to try and debate.  That was a breath of fresh air
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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 08:11:27 PM »
Violent crime may be dropping, but this is most likely simply because the average Americas is older. Also, we have fewer veterans as a percentage of the population, and ex-military people tend to use guns more than those who are not veterans.

The incidence of mass shootings in schools and public places seems to be growing, however.

The US is far, far more violent a country than Spain and the rest of W. Europe.


   Shooting happening more in gun free zones , does not make your point.

   Europe is where World Wars start. I would not just consider WWI and WWII the wars of conquest and succession that were founded on European problems shook the world since 1492.

     Imagine a USA as aggrandizing and avaricious as Imperial Spain or Napoleonic France.

     I don't think we need to reject all of Europa's influence , but we need to not make them an unexamined model either.

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Re: Five reasons to join the NRA
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2014, 08:16:45 PM »
Shooting happening more in gun free zones , does not make your point.

Imagine a USA as aggrandizing and avaricious as Imperial Spain or Napoleonic France.

I don't think we need to reject all of Europa's influence , but we need to not make them an unexamined model either
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100% AGREED
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