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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2015, 11:25:50 PM »
Because Republican'ts believe this sort of shit, I will never vote for any of them.
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2015, 04:36:22 AM »
If you very strongly refuse to believe, then, it can't be true.

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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2015, 11:49:42 AM »
Of COURSE it is not true.
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2015, 12:52:06 PM »
The point is that Americans should be paid enough to live on, period.


   Evil , seductive idea. 

    People that do not create , are fed of pity.

      People that create , create money , only if their creation is good for another person.


It was just recently I listened to a pundit explain this issue, in a far clearer ideological manner.  To folks on the left, certain things that they have decided, in a group think manner, just must be.  Such a universal health care or the idea of a living wage.  Such concepts are noble, and as you rightly refer to here, as seductive.  They're sold on an emotional level however, because in the arena of reality, especially, in a free market system that the United States functions in, those "ideas" are disastrous, leading to still more and more folks beholden to Government services

And that's kicker.  To folks like Obama, success of a society is determined by how many folks can be helped/supported by Government services.  The greater the #, the more "successful", Government must be functioning. 

It's also feeds the notion of how "caring" Democrats are, and now "evil" Republicans are, for daring to want to "kick grandma onto the streets".  Emotion is a strong weapon of the left.  It doesn't require any facts to debunk reality of who's paying for all the services.  You find a boogeyman (be it evil conservatives, white racist cops, hateful republicans, Fox News), and proclaim that's the reason you can't get a job, or that some CEO is making a bazillion dollars to your minimum wage.  No facts necessary, just raw emotion 

So it matters not how many small businesses are put put out of business with "living wage" cries.  It matters not how many people lose their jobs.  It matters not that the increased costs get slapped on those who can least afford it.  Because if that happens, it just means more people that will need Government "help".........whaalaaaa.........success
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2015, 02:32:22 PM »
It is not an emotional issue that everyone in this prosperous nation should have a job that will allow them to live a decent life.

"People that do not create, are fed of pity".  What a great steaming crock!

The entire advertising industry does not create. Real estate salesmen do not create. Professional athletes do not create. Bankers do not create.

Artists, writers, cinematographers, painters, sculptors, architects, bricklayers, cooks and many others do create.

Getting paid for doing something is not creating.
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2015, 03:25:10 PM »
It is not an emotional issue that everyone in this prosperous nation should have a job that will allow them to live a decent life.

That's a perfect example of an emotionally-centric arguement.  There's no facts or objective concepts to bolster the claim.  Just an opinion.  I could argue that everyone in this "prosperous" nation should have a home, that will allow them a "decent place to rest".  Everyone should have HDTV's, to allow a "decent chance to keep up with daily events".  You're using emotionally charged concepts and words, like prosperous, allow, and decent life.  No one is against anything of those concepts

That said, No one is NOT allowing anyone to do anything.  People have the control to do as much as they want....or as little as they want.  We shouldn't be punishing those who chose to do much, with higher taxes, to support those who choose to do little.  Nor should there should there ever be such a thing as a 'living wage", since it completely robs people of any incentive to do better.  Just enough to get along, and anything else will be taken care of by the Government.....(AS IN WE THE TAX PAYERS) 


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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2015, 04:05:20 PM »
What a dipshit!  You do not even know what taxes are.

Taxes are not punishment, fool. They are fees you pay for belonging to the country, and availing yourself of the services rendered.

People who make a lot of money often do very little for it. Some corporations pay the directors $20K to attend a meeting in which they only listen to the management.

You seem to think that the only reason people work is for money, which is probably true for you, considering.

But it is not true for normal people.

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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2015, 04:30:27 PM »
Leave it to the liberal professor to take debate down to the gutter level, once again.  When you increase taxes on those who are successful, you are defacto punishing them for their success.  I never claimed that's what taxes were Dr Deflection, merely a reality to what the left tries to do...taxing more and more of the successful, which pours over into the pool of middle class, to pay for all their "freebies" to those who the left systematically keeps removing any incentives to better themselves.  Your twisted sense of who works or doesn't work for their money aside, the predomnant majority of folks who have become successful, WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF to get to that point.

Under the left's thought process of "living wage", there need be no higher education.  Hell, who needs to graduate High School.  Just drop out, and get a job that pays a 'living wage", and all is taken care of.  Any other needs, the Government will help you out with.  I think HDTV's are necessary to allow everyone to live a decent life.      ::)
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2015, 05:38:46 PM »
Yeah, let's  keep going the way we are going until twelve people own every fucking thing on the planet. It must be what God had in mind.

This country would be far better off if we did what Denmark does, and provide all the education that  a person has the aptitude for through the graduate school level.
The Danes are far better off than the Americans are, and get four or five weeks' vacation every year.  We really have no need of any more Rupert Murdocks, Kochs or Trumps. They should be paying far more in taxes. It would make no difference to their lifestyles. No one needs a CHOICE of private jets.
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2015, 05:56:43 PM »
Or.......you can just move to Denmark, and leave us more freedom focused Americans be    ::)
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2015, 06:06:44 PM »
I noticed also your rant on the uber rich, as if they're the only ones who have made themsevles successful, seemed to be focused on everything but liberal Democrat uber rich.  Which tends to validate that its not the money but what they support/believe in.  So you are perfectly swell with Steyer, Soros, & company, with all their gobs of $$$$$$'s.  Isn't that just a tad....hypocritical?
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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2015, 06:43:36 PM »

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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2015, 07:12:51 PM »
Hey
I just gave it a thought if those kiosk increase as predicted 30% more business than thier will be no employee loss. Since whose gonna prepare the food? You can't exactly expect the back to hump it since they already are.. Somebody gotta pickup the slack.

Remember it's been months since the increase meaning those machines been coming way before the thought of wage increase.

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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2015, 07:29:49 PM »
I'll just leave this here

http://www.dol.gov/minwage/mythbuster.htm

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Myth: Increasing the minimum wage will cause people to lose their jobs.

Not true: A review of 64 studies on minimum wage increases found no discernable effect on employment. Additionally, more than 600 economists, seven of them Nobel Prize winners in economics, have signed onto a letter in support of raising the minimum wage to $10.10 by 2016.

These studies must be the sloppiest science on the planet.

Americans used to pick peaches and onions , Americans used to wash cars and pump gas.

There are dozens of jobs that are no longer available above the table, or they are the sort of jobs that "Americans won't do".

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Re: McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2015, 07:52:27 PM »
I have no problem with Soros and Steyer (whoever the crap he is) paying the same rate as Trump and Koch.

The system rewards them grossly more, so they should pay a proportionate amount for this fluke and unfairness in the system.

One thing is for sure: you wlll never join them.
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