Ayman al-Zawahri

[_JS]

I can trump that Tee.

We had to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Nothing like giving your allegiance to cloth every morning and listening to a room full of kids say "invisible, with liberty and justice for all."

[Michael Tee]

<<Nothing like giving your allegiance to cloth every morning >>

LOL. 

To be fair, it was to cloth AND to the Republic for which the cloth stood.  Believe it or not, JS, I used to be able to recite the whole thing myself.  I loved it.  Back in the day.  When it was unsullied by the gratuitous insertion of God's name.  I especially loved the ending, "with liberty and justice for all."  Really used to bring tears to my eyes.

[Plane]

That is back when Blacks were nicer to each other than they are now.

Source?

The government has gotten better twards racial minoritys , what have the people done?

Just the government? Or has society and the attitudes of whites gotten better as well?

I will try to point to sorces , will you then try to answer the question?


http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/11/cosby/index.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200407/SPE20040702a.html

http://www.peace.ca/truthaboutblackcrime.htm


http://www.city-journal.org/html/6_2_my_black.html
"Even if, therefore, the justice system punished only those blacks who commit violent crimes—indeed, even if it punished only black violent criminals whose victims were themselves black—blacks would still be “overrepresented” in prison, in jail, on probation, and on parole. Thus, instead of all the ideological nonsense about “1 in 3” and the like, we should begin to focus in common on how revolving-door justice harms all Americans, most especially blacks. As the bipartisan Council on Crime in America has reported: “America’s violent crime problem, especially the rage of homicidal and near-homicidal violence, is extremely concentrated among young urban minority males. . . ."

Is prayer in school mandated by Christianity?

Yes

[_JS]

I will try to point to sorces , will you then try to answer the question?

I don't see a question (not being an ass, I really don't see a question being asked).

Yes

Where?

[Plane]

I will try to point to sorces , will you then try to answer the question?

I don't see a question (not being an ass, I really don't see a question being asked).

The government has gotten better twards racial minoritys , what have the people done?

Yes

Where?

In the New Testament , "suffer the little Children to come unto me"
                                   "Pray without ceaseing"

 In the old Testiment       "Train up a child in the way he should go "
Several other passages , encourage introduction of Biblical wisdom to children , at the time it was written scripture was most of school.

[_JS]

The government has gotten better twards racial minoritys , what have the people done?

I hope that some have gotten better attitudes towards minorities, I think that they have. Of course there are still racists and bigots. I dare say there always will be. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we live in some golden society today. I simply don't believe that the 1950's or prior were really any better. People tend to reflect upon the past with rose-coloured glasses.

In the New Testament , "suffer the little Children to come unto me"
                                   "Pray without ceaseing"

 In the old Testiment       "Train up a child in the way he should go "
Several other passages , encourage introduction of Biblical wisdom to children , at the time it was written scripture was most of school.

That indicates nothing of formally led prayer in schools. There is no reason a child cannot say the Lord's Prayer unto himself at any time in a public school.

[The_Professor]

Plane is correct in that an attitude of prayer, or should I say an environment of prayer, can produce positive results in moral behaviour. aS you know, our laws are primarily based upon a Judeo-Christian foundation. This foundation, including the Ten Commandments, have fomed much of what America is today. When you take morals out of society, what do you have? Anarchy.

[_JS]

aS you know, our laws are primarily based upon a Judeo-Christian foundation. This foundation including the Ten Commandments, have fomed much of what America is today. When you take moals out of society, what do you have? Anarchy.

Our laws are primarily formed from English common law dependent upon stare decisis et non quieta movere, the other primary sources of American law are administrative law, statutes, and constitutional law.

There might be a Calvinist influence as well as the Church of England (Anglican) influence with some of the Statutes of Elizabeth I adopted, but I'd hardly pretend that it is fully Judeo/Christian.

[Plane]

In the New Testament , "suffer the little Children to come unto me"
                                   "Pray without ceasing"

 In the old Testament       "Train up a child in the way he should go "
Several other passages , encourage introduction of Biblical wisdom to children , at the time it was written scripture was most of school.

That indicates nothing of formally led prayer in schools. There is no reason a child cannot say the Lord's Prayer unto himself at any time in a public school.

What are you asking ?

If you had asked if the government should have a role in introduceing Christianity to Children I would have said no.

You asked ,"Is prayer in school mandated by Christianity?"

[_JS]

What are you asking ?

If you had asked if the government should have a role in introduceing Christianity to Children I would have said no.

You asked ,"Is prayer in school mandated by Christianity?"

Fair enough, but how exactly would you place prayer back in school?

[Michael Tee]

<<aS you know, our laws are primarily based upon a Judeo-Christian foundation. >>

Judaism and Christianity were important influences on our laws but Judaic law itself was founded in significant part on the Code of Hammurabi; Roman law and pre-Christian custom also contributed to our laws and of course an entire secular gloss has been applied to our fundamental laws in the last century.

<<This foundation, including the Ten Commandments, have fomed much of what America is today. When you take morals out of society, what do you have? Anarchy.>>

Where was the anarchy in Soviet Russia, in Communist China or even in Nazi Germany?  Lack of morality does not necessarily result in anarchy and "Judaeo-Christian" (if there even is such a thing) religion is not the only source of morality.

[Plane]

What are you asking ?

If you had asked if the government should have a role in introduceing Christianity to Children I would have said no.

You asked ,"Is prayer in school mandated by Christianity?"

Fair enough, but how exactly would you place prayer back in school?

My favorite idea is to end the government monopoly on teaching , all they want is another brick in the wall.

If the Government run schools provided a standard , competeing privately run schools would try to surpass it .