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The GOP's crowded closet

The party's culture of concealment has led to embarrassment and personal destruction. Isn't it about time for the right to cure its homophobia?
By Joe Conason

Aug. 31, 2007 | "Is everybody gay?"

That was the cry of the lovelorn schoolteacher in the classic 1997 film "In and Out," after her diffident fianc? reveals his true orientation (and dumps her for Tom Selleck). Ten years later, more than a few discombobulated Republicans must be muttering the same question, despite the fervent denial of Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig that he is, indeed, gay. As one embarrassing episode follows another, with almost predictable regularity, perhaps it is time for Republicans and conservatives to ask themselves an obvious question: What makes the Republican Party -- and the conservative movement more generally -- so attractive to closeted homosexual men?

Somewhere in the textbooks of psychosexual pathology there may be a straightforward answer, so to speak. Does the party draw closeted men because they can hide behind Republican homophobia? Or does the party promote homophobia as a political ruse while closeted men run the show? Whatever the answer, the result is routine humiliation and personal destruction. Even worse, the party's culture of concealment encourages right-wing gay-bashing, such as Tucker Carlson's grotesque boast that he and another adolescent thug beat up a gay man who "bothered" him in a bathroom years ago.

Telling such manly tales may relieve the insecurities of Republicans who must contemplate the ever-mounting archive of homosexual history in their party's ample closet. But only Republicans who are truly in denial can ignore the long parade now led by the reluctant Craig -- a conga line of right-leaning queens that dates all the way back to the late Roy Cohn, Joe McCarthy's infamous henchman and an intimate friend of the Reagans'. Perhaps, like Cohn, today's closeted Republicans believe that they aren't really gay at all, except for a few minutes in bed (or in the men's room).

No matter how Cohn deluded himself about his sexuality, however, he was among the founders of modern conservatism, along with late fundraiser and activist Marvin Liebman, who finally came out and denounced the homophobia of the right several years before his death. Both of them lived to witness the conservative resurgence of the Reagan era, led by the likes of Terry Dolan, who operated the National Conservative Political Action Committee from deep within his lifelong closet, attacking "the growing homosexual movement" until not long before he died of AIDS, and Arthur Finkelstein, the renowned Republican political consultant who worked for the NCPAC and dozens of Republican senators, often emphasizing their opposition to gay rights and in particular to gay marriage -- at least until three years ago, when Finkelstein married his male partner in their home state of Massachusetts.

Hypocritical as Finkelstein may be in his mercenary way, at least he is no longer living a lie, having been outed more than a decade ago in the pages of Boston Magazine. Over the past few years, the frequency of outing on the Republican side of the aisle has intensified.

On the first day of the party's New York convention in 2004, the closet doors were flung open again when Rep. Ed Schrock, a Republican from Pat Robertson's home district in Virginia, was forced to drop his bid for reelection. The outing Web site BlogActive.com exposed the secret homosexual life of the 63-year-old retired career Navy officer, Vietnam veteran and member of the House Armed Services Committee.

Hiding in the next Republican closet to be aired out was Jim West, then mayor of Spokane, Wash., an important politician in the Northwest with a strong reputation for opposing gay rights and advocating the removal of gay teachers from schools and daycare centers. In 2005, the Spokane Spokesman-Review revealed that West had been leading a double life, trolling for male sexual partners on the Internet and allegedly abusing two teenage boys who came under his care as a Boy Scout leader. These gamy stories led to West's ouster as mayor by the end of the year. (He died of cancer several months later.)

Then in 2006 came the stunning Mark Foley scandal, which featured the curious "Don't ask, don't tell" behavior of the Republican congressional leadership when confronted with evidence that the Florida representative was pursuing teenage male pages. The Republicans seemed to hope that they could conceal Foley's creepy behavior toward the boys in their care until after the midterm elections. Thanks to Lane Hudson, the gay rights activist who disclosed Foley's misconduct to the media, that scheme backfired badly. The reverberations amplified perceptions of the Republican Congress as decadent and self-serving, leading to the midterm debacle that returned control of Capitol Hill to the Democrats.

The November 2006 election results had scarcely been confirmed when a former male prostitute named Mike Jones convincingly accused right-wing evangelical preacher Ted Haggard of joining him in narcotics-fueled sex romps. Following the familiar cycle of denial and confession, Haggard stepped down as the head of his Colorado Springs, Colo., church and as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, a position he had not hesitated to use on behalf of Republican candidates, notably including George W. Bush. Until his downfall, Haggard had participated in a weekly telephone conference with Bush and other evangelical leaders. The White House and his former comrades on the religious right sought to downplay Haggard's influence after his confession to "sexual immorality."

Around that same time, Michael Rogers of BlogActive.com -- the gay blogger who outed Schrock in 2004 -- posted the first allegations concerning Larry Craig's misbehavior in men's rooms around the country. Having learned about Craig many months earlier from men who reported their encounters with him, Rogers had been warning as early as January 2006 that he was planning to out a senator. His initial reports on Craig attracted the attention of the Idaho media, which nevertheless held back the story until the senator's arrest in a Minnesota men's room and misdemeanor plea became public.

The Craig scandal overshadowed still another embarrassing saga from the closets of the red states. During the first week of August, Glenn Murphy, a Republican county chairman from Indiana, mysteriously stepped down as president of the Young Republican National Federation. In a letter to the nation's Young Republican leaders, he claimed that he was obliged to resign because of a pending major business opportunity. That explanation seemed unlikely in light of news concerning an investigation of Murphy for sexually molesting another man after a party. That young gentleman, a guest in a house where Murphy was staying, awoke the next morning to find the chairman's mouth on his genitalia.

Murphy's star may no longer rise, but his tale is a portent for the future. So long as Republicans promote homophobia, the party's closets will be crowded.

-- By Joe Conason

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Grand Old Perv party, it seems
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 08:10:32 PM »
Alll the more reason for any GOP politico to come out of the closet forthwith


Then Rogers can go after ambigious dems who voted for DoMA

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Grand Old Perv party, it seems
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 09:08:42 PM »
Alll the more reason for any GOP politico to come out of the closet forthwith


Then Rogers can go after ambigious dems who voted for DoMA
"ambigious" is hardly the same as deeply perverted as you guys are. It used to be that I was the only one that seemed to notice that when you scratch the surface of  pious , hypocritical Gross Old Pervs there is  abiding debauchery underneath. Now everyone seems see and notice it except the pervs themselves.

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 11:11:20 PM »
Does it matter if these dems are only latent homosexuals if they voted for DoMA? Seems that is just as hypocritcal as anything CRaig did.

Rogers should be all over them, to be consistent and non hypocritical.


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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2007, 12:59:36 AM »
Does it matter if these dems are only latent homosexuals if they voted for DoMA? Seems that is just as hypocritcal as anything CRaig did.

Rogers should be all over them, to be consistent and non hypocritical.



You are one sloooow Mofo. Voting or not for one bill does not qualify one for the pervert status that most if not all you RW sick fucks have reached,

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 01:05:19 AM »
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You are one sloooow Mofo. Voting or not for one bill does not qualify one for the pervert status that most if not all you RW sick fucks have reached,

So it isn't the hypocrisy as you claimed.

It is the sexual orientation.

Why are dems such homophobes?

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 01:11:19 AM »
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You are one sloooow Mofo. Voting or not for one bill does not qualify one for the pervert status that most if not all you RW sick fucks have reached,

So it isn't the hypocrisy as you claimed.

It is the sexual orientation.

Why are dems such homophobes?


What the fuck. Your hypocracy is everywhere and everyone with a brain can see it now. Only you are left grasping straws of your self created unreality. When you are found a fascist it is always a good ruse to accuse others , isnt it , asshole?

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 06:03:07 AM »
<<Why are dems such homophobes?>>

LMFAO.  This is great.  When did anyone ever expect to see Republicans trying to paste the homophobe label on their opponents?  "ME a homophobe??  YOU'RE the homophobe!!  We Republicans LOVE gay people.  No homophobia HERE!"

I'm just waiting for the next batch of Republican pervs to be yanked out of the closet, kicking and screaming.  And from the looks of things, it won't be long now.  At that point, the Republicans will have to move past "Why are YOU so homophobic?" to "Homosexuality?  What's wrong with THAT?  Why SHOULDN'T gay people get married?"

And when the batch after THAT get outted, it'll be, "Family Values?  Gay marriage IS family values!!"

Who knows?  Maybe the closet gayness of the Republican Party will bring a new liberalism into America's public sexual morality dramas.

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 09:12:29 AM »
<<Why are dems such homophobes?>>

LMFAO.  This is great.  When did anyone ever expect to see Republicans trying to paste the homophobe label on their opponents?  "ME a homophobe??  YOU'RE the homophobe!!  We Republicans LOVE gay people.  No homophobia HERE!"

I'm just waiting for the next batch of Republican pervs to be yanked out of the closet, kicking and screaming.  And from the looks of things, it won't be long now.  At that point, the Republicans will have to move past "Why are YOU so homophobic?" to "Homosexuality?  What's wrong with THAT?  Why SHOULDN'T gay people get married?"

And when the batch after THAT get outted, it'll be, "Family Values?  Gay marriage IS family values!!"

Who knows?  Maybe the closet gayness of the Republican Party will bring a new liberalism into America's public sexual morality dramas.
Michael- I think our fearfilled leader is trying to be cute. He has no answer to the fact that his ilk are the real pervs so he is dragging every stinking red herring ( 1st DOMA and now WE are the homophobes because we hate the hypocritical perverted Repub ones probly) he can think of to throw the conversation of the track which is what these RW creeps always do when they are losing so badly.
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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 11:39:25 AM »
Knutey,

You are going after the likes as Craig as hard as Christian is going after them. At least he is honest and admits he is disgusted by their sexual orientation.

Politics makes strange bedfellows, eh?

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 12:20:44 PM »
Knutey,

You are going after the likes as Craig as hard as Christian is going after them. At least he is honest and admits he is disgusted by their sexual orientation.

Politics makes strange bedfellows, eh?


Xtian is disgusted because of his orientation probly because he also is a faggot and also in the closet. I am not one and am disgusted not by his orientation but by his  sanctimonious psalm singing hypocracy and actual bathroom perversions. I repeat: Gays are not perverts. You guys are.
(Xtian would never be my bedfellow.  I wouldnt even fuck him with your dick)

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »
Boy knute, this sexual fixation you have is getting pretty prominent.  You sure there's nothing you're ready to let the rest of the saloon in on?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: " Is Everybody Gay?"- Nope just all the Gross Old Pervs party, it seems
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 12:32:49 PM »
Boy knute, this sexual fixation you have is getting pretty prominent.  You sure there's nothing you're ready to let the rest of the saloon in on?

Yes- I am ready to let them know that you are a fucking idiot. But I am sure that everyone already knew that. Prominent is a good word for you to use. That is probly what happens to your peewees when you & Ami get together.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 12:33:24 PM »
Heavy rounds, incoming, Knute.  Us "homophobes" gotta dig in deeper before the Republican Gay Liberation Front gets our range.  The Party of Constitutional Amendments to Save Family Values is suddenly reconnecting to its gay roots.

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2007, 12:52:04 PM »
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Heavy rounds, incoming, Knute.  Us "homophobes" gotta dig in deeper before the Republican Gay Liberation Front gets our range.  The Party of Constitutional Amendments to Save Family Values is suddenly reconnecting to its gay roots.

Mikey,

You have to admit Knutey is heavy on the disgusting pervert characterizations, but it only seems to apply to GOP members. Seems he would have to be equally disgusted with democrats who lean that way,to be consistent at least. Especially those who voted in favor of DoMA. In fact the dems don't even have to be gay to be considered hypocrits because they as a party are on record as being all for gay rights.  He claims it is about the hypocrisy but i don't buy it.

I think he just thinks his has cover to unleash his prejudices and hatred for gays.

Perhaps it goes back to a rejection at the barracks door. You notice he hates marines as much as he hates gays.

Maybe he needs to come out of the closet himself. Self loathing can't be healthy.
Craig has been married as long as he has. So being married doesn't seem to be a proof.