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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2008, 10:03:44 PM »
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The "good of others" doesn't include TAKING from others.  THAT would be "not very Christian"  Never has, never will be.

Though a few pages back, and completely ignored, I posted a passage where Jesus was challenged for his disciples' taking corn (that didn't belong to them) on the Sabbath, and he responded by citing a passage where David took bread from the temple that was reserved for the priests and was not his to take.

Seems like he advocated taking it if you felt you needed it.
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2008, 10:13:16 PM »
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Seems like he advocated taking it if you felt you needed it.

Would that be stealing?
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2008, 10:19:11 PM »
Lessee, I feel like I need about ten grand. How many years in prison do you figger I'd get if I just broke into the ATM on the corner and took it?

Would that be stealing?
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2008, 10:22:26 PM »
Quote from: hnumpah on January 10, 2008, 10:03:44 PM
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The "good of others" doesn't include TAKING from others.  THAT would be "not very Christian"  Never has, never will be.

Though a few pages back, and completely ignored, I posted a passage where Jesus was challenged for his disciples' taking corn (that didn't belong to them) on the Sabbath, and he responded by citing a passage where David took bread from the temple that was reserved for the priests and was not his to take.

Seems like he advocated taking it if you felt you needed it.

I believe Jesus was providing a point on legalism and the Pharisees being so rigid and inflexible. Man tends to want God in a nice little box so we create all these rituals, etc. to "properly" define Him. The Pharisees were superb at this tactic.
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2008, 10:49:11 PM »
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I beleive Jesus was providing a point on legalism and the Pharisees being so rigid and inflexible.

So it is not considered stealing if you limit your targets to rigid and inflexible people?
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2008, 11:14:32 PM »
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So it is not considered stealing if you limit your targets to rigid and inflexible people?

Hey, that's cool by me - the bank was pretty rigid and inflexible about not just giving me the money.
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2008, 11:16:28 PM »
seem we have an abundance of contradictions
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2008, 11:17:55 PM »
Quote from: Brassmask on January 10, 2008, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: sirs on January 10, 2008, 08:47:58 PM
The "good of others" doesn't include TAKING from others.  THAT would be "not very Christian"  Never has, never will be.

So, how to reconcile taking our tax money to use to kill others? Taking from us to use for very unchristian endeavours.

Because A) This is not a Theocracy, B) The money doesn't belong to just Christians or the "Church of the U.S., and C) I don't ascribe to your twisted version of "killing others"
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2008, 11:31:51 PM »
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seem we have an abundance of contradictions

Yep. It's all them contortions, trying wriggle out of what he keeps digging himself deeper into.
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2008, 11:46:50 PM »
Well,

It's not just Sirs.

JS introduced a bucket of contradictions when we looked at the Catholics views on property.

The only dog i have in this fight is this whole slander thing of a group because of the statements of a few.

All Republicans are not closet pervs because Larry Craig has a wide stance in airport restrooms.

All blacks are not robbers because a black robbed someone.

All atheists are nut gun nuts because i read the musings of an atheist defender of the 2nd.

Religion, sexuality, race are components of a being but they don't define the being. And the being doesn't define the group.





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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2008, 11:58:33 PM »
Quote from: BT on January 10, 2008, 11:46:50 PM
The only dog i have in this fight is this whole slander thing of a group because of the statements of a few.

GASP!

Does that mean that all Republicans DON'T want women to die of cancer?

I never knew!
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2008, 12:02:38 AM »
I've gotten a few good chuckles out of the thread. I expect there'll be more.
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2008, 12:39:51 AM »
Since y'all are having such a good time and since Sirs wants Biblical verses about taking things. I thought I'd post the entire passage from Luke 6:29-30

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29 To the person who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other one as well, and from the person who takes your cloak, do not withhold even your tunic.
30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and from the one who takes what is yours do not demand it back.

 
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2008, 12:43:53 AM »
Quote from: BT on January 10, 2008, 11:46:50 PM
Well,

It's not just Sirs.

JS introduced a bucket of contradictions when we looked at the Catholics views on property.

The only dog i have in this fight is this whole slander thing of a group because of the statements of a few.

All Republicans are not closet pervs because Larry Craig has a wide stance in airport restrooms.

All blacks are not robbers because a black robbed someone.

All atheists are nut gun nuts because i read the musings of an atheist defender of the 2nd.

Religion, sexuality, race are components of a being but they don't define the being. And the being doesn't define the group.

I don't believe I make such blanket statements.

If you've ever discussed a piece of literature or philosophy, then you can understand the complexity of what I was trying to illustrate.

On the other hand if you boil it down to a joke about "celestial dollars" then obviously it looks contradictory.



Besides, they don't use dollars in heaven, I'm fairly sure Satan invented the greenback.  :P
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Re: True intentions of Christ's teachings (Sirs)
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2008, 01:04:18 AM »
Quote from: _JS on January 11, 2008, 12:39:51 AM
Since y'all are having such a good time and since Sirs wants Biblical verses about taking things. I thought I'd post the entire passage from Luke 6:29-30

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29 To the person who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other one as well, and from the person who takes your cloak, do not withhold even your tunic.
30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and from the one who takes what is yours do not demand it back.

And......?  Just another version to turning one's cheek.  That has what to do with anything I've said?
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