George Bush: a visionary American president

[Religious Dick]

McCain will go up against Obama.

McCain.
A man who will take us into war for 100 more years.

Oh my.

Oh, I don't know. The last Republican candidate for president promised us a "humbler foreign policy". Given that I have little reason to believe that McCain is any less of a liar than Bush, it won't surprise me much if a President McCain withdraws our troops from Iraq as soon the oath of office is out of his mouth.

Interestingly enough, McCain got the majority of the anti-war Republican vote in the primaries. Maybe they were on to something....

[BT]

McCain.
A man who will take us into war for 100 more years.

Oh my.

That isn't what he said.

What the "100 years" talk refers to is something McCain rightly said in response to a question during a New Hampshire town hall meeting in January. The question regarded Bush's statement that we could be in Iraq for 50 more years. McCain sensibly responded: "Make it 100. We've been in South Korea ... we've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, that's fine with me. I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting and equipping and motivating people every single day."

[Amianthus]

Bush was not smart enough for the job, sorry to say..the old Peter Principle.

That must be a hell of a qualification. According to Bush's SAT scores, he was a few points shy of qualifying for MENSA.

So, only MENSA members need apply? I don't think ANY president has met that standard.

[Xavier_Onassis]

According to Bush's SAT scores, he was a few points shy of qualifying for MENSA.


I wonder who took the SAT's for him, and how much Daddy paid.

[Amianthus]

I wonder who took the SAT's for him, and how much Daddy paid.

Have they stopped requiring photo IDs?

[Christians4LessGvt]

ami when you get right down to it
thats what they must rely on
some kind of conspiracy
the facts are not there
XO pretends daddy paid someone on off for the SAT
is there any credible evidence to support such non-sense?
hell no
when you provide facts like President Bush graduated from Yale & Harvard
it's always "well Daddy must have paid them off"
any credible evidence to support such trash talk?
hell no
as if Harvard & Yale two of the most respected universities in the world could be bribed
yeah all the teachers of every class he passed were bribed
and the bribery went on for years
but no one involved in this long scam has ever come forward? not one?
yeah thats really how they maintain their name and credibility
i'm telling you they live in fantasy land
arguments taken to their finality must rely on some huge conspiracy to connect the dots
because with facts it can't be done

FACTS:
President Bush graduated from Harvard
President Bush graduated from Yale
President Bush flew fighter jets


XO: "bribery" = unproven wild conspiracy kook

[sirs]

Must fit template......must fit template

[fatman]

So, only MENSA members need apply? I don't think ANY president has met that standard.

Maybe Wilson, he was probably the overall most intelligent President.  That said, wisdom is a far more applicable attribute than intelligence.  Rain Man could tell you how many toothpicks you dropped from a box, but he couldn't tie his shoes.

[Christians4LessGvt]

"wisdom is a far more applicable attribute than intelligence. 
Rain Man could tell you how many toothpicks you dropped from a box, but he couldn't tie his shoes"
 
OMG Fatman we actually agree on something!

btw: I really believe your statement strongly applies in business. oh and in 3DHS too
 

[fatman]

OMG Fatman we actually agree on something!

I think that we probably agree on a lot of things.  We just disagree on some too.

btw: I really believe your statement strongly applies in business. oh and in 3DHS too

I would think so too.

[Cynthia]

So, only MENSA members need apply? I don't think ANY president has met that standard.

Maybe Wilson, he was probably the overall most intelligent President.  That said, wisdom is a far more applicable attribute than intelligence.  Rain Man could tell you how many toothpicks you dropped from a box, but he couldn't tie his shoes.

OMYGOD!!!!! Wilson was the WORST PRESIDENT in this nation as we know it.

He was responsible for creating a learning system where the lower class folks had to learn to add and subtract in chop chop fashion in order to satisfy the elite!!

don't get me started. That man was one of the worst leaders this nation will ever know.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I was not suggesting that Olebush paid off the faculty at Harvard, I was suggesting that Juniorbush had someone else take the SAT for him, and was wondering how much Olebush paid that person.

It is common knowledge that all the Ivy League universities have two types of admissions: one for academically superior students, who are admitted on merit, and another for "legacy" students, whose parents were grads, and whose families have contributed big bucks to the school in question.

Juniorbush was a legacy student. He was not and is not and never will be a genius, and is properly qualified to nothing more than the night manager of a Piggley-Wiggley supermarket. He was chosen as a candidate because he was known to be a guy who would do as he was told by the Oligarchy that really runs this country without question, and that is pretty much what he has done. Nothing like a war to pitch billions of dollars into the air and allow them to be ripped off with no supervision.

His only success in the business world was looting taxpayers of a huge bunch of money by getting them to buy a stadium for his loser baseball team, which he then sold at a profit.

I do not and shall never respect this unspeakable turd not his thieving asshgole buddy Dickless Cheney. May God rot the pair of them, and soon.

[Cynthia]

Bush was not smart enough for the job, sorry to say..the old Peter Principle.

That must be a hell of a qualification. According to Bush's SAT scores, he was a few points shy of qualifying for MENSA.

So, only MENSA members need apply? I don't think ANY president has met that standard.

Ami,

I haven't had the opportunity to reply to many of your posts, but just know...I have read them all.

You make more sense than I want to admit.

With that said, I do believe that any issue discussed on a message board has room for more than a  sound bite mentality.
There is a whole world out there with solutions to problems, details to beat the band, and wisdom to win a war.
But, hear me now. You have made more sense than I have given you credit for,.....I will state that now.

BT, on the other hand, I really wonder about you. Have you been too quick to bash the opposition. Are you an administrator of this board who is afraid to admit you  might have doubt?
ahhh no. ( ) Of course not.
 

I ask this'; Let's discuss issues in more detail on this board, I challenge you all. I would love to hear members listen to one another with more than a reactionary post back, think things through, research and find fact. Ok, THEN REACT....instead of the what is status quo. react react react.....
I would love to see a board  more 'DISCUSSION' based.

There are too many factors that need to be heard before we can judge one another.IMO

This country. ....my Gosh, This world, is broken. We can't rest on battles of broken chards.
 

How can we put cards on the table and truly make a discussion work, instead of a battle ground?

CHALLENGE;
Take away the ego. Put questions and inquiry on the table. Be willing to take time to post thoughts of misunderstanding and then understanding then questioning and then resolution....hear the other fella out.

What question can you each come up with that has not been truly found a place of settle, because you are afraid to admit you might not really understand the persons point?

Why? ...simply because you are afraid of losing face.

Sirs?
 Rich?
 BT?
 XO?
UP...and more

 I wonder if you can step up to that plate and hold discussions. I have been on this board for so many years, and I have seen growth here. Less bashing. BUt there is still not enough meat in this genre. We are spinning wheels.

Change is part of growth. Change is the only thing that is constant.

Change your stream of thinking for one post, and let go.

I am willing to see that THE NCLB is not so black and white. I was able to see more than I did a few days ago about private schools, home schooling...and I have not lost my sense of self. ha!

But, I am not willing to put blame on others in order to satisfy my ego. I sense that this board has done that for years now.

Idea?
Just a thought.
HEck, I am not afraid of thinking outside any box.

It's more fun....

 

[Religious Dick]

So, only MENSA members need apply? I don't think ANY president has met that standard.

Not true. Nixon's IQ is on record as being 143. He would have qualified for MENSA. There were probably several others whose IQ's aren't available.

[fatman]

OMYGOD!!!!! Wilson was the WORST PRESIDENT in this nation as we know it.

He was responsible for creating a learning system where the lower class folks had to learn to add and subtract in chop chop fashion in order to satisfy the elite!!

don't get me started. That man was one of the worst leaders this nation will ever know.

Please re-read the post, I said "overall intelligence".  I made no claims as to his leadership.  His 14 Points were wise, but unrealistic.  The crisis caused by his stroke.  A good debate could be had as to his leadership abilities, which I chose not to address.  As far as I'm aware, Wilson was the only academic ever to become President.


Not true. Nixon's IQ is on record as being 143. He would have qualified for MENSA. There were probably several others whose IQ's aren't available.

I realize that Nixon was highly intelligent, I didn't know that he was that far.  Thanks for the info.