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Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« on: April 02, 2008, 01:11:14 PM »


Bill Clinton's tirade stunned some delegates
Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross

Wednesday, April 2, 2008



The Bill Clinton who met privately with California's superdelegates at last weekend's state convention was a far cry from the congenial former president who afterward publicly urged fellow Democrats to "chill out" over the race between his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Barack Obama.

In fact, before his speech Clinton had one of his famous meltdowns Sunday, blasting away at former presidential contender Bill Richardson for having endorsed Obama, the media and the entire nomination process.

"It was one of the worst political meetings I have ever attended," one superdelegate said.

According to those at the meeting, Clinton - who flew in from Chicago with bags under his eyes - was classic old Bill at first, charming and making small talk with the 15 or so delegates who gathered in a room behind the convention stage.

But as the group moved together for the perfunctory photo, Rachel Binah, a former Richardson delegate who now supports Hillary Clinton, told Bill how "sorry" she was to have heard former Clinton campaign manager James Carville call Richardson a "Judas" for backing Obama.

It was as if someone pulled the pin from a grenade.

"Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that," a red-faced, finger-pointing Clinton erupted.


The former president then went on a tirade that ran from the media's unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out.

"It was very, very intense," said one attendee. "Not at all like the Bill of earlier campaigns."

When he finally wound down, Bill was asked what message he wanted the delegates to take away from the meeting.

At that point, a much calmer Clinton outlined his message of party unity.

"It was kind of strange later when he took the stage and told everyone to 'chill out,' " one delegate told us.

"We couldn't help but think he was also talking to himself."

When delegate Binah - still stunned from her encounter with Clinton - got home to Little River (Mendocino County) later in the day - there was a phone message waiting for her from State Party Chairman Art Torres, telling her the former president wanted him to apologize to her on his behalf for what happened.

Still, word of Clinton's blast shot all the way back to the New Mexico state Capitol, where Richardson spokesman Pahl Shipley reiterated Tuesday that his boss had never "promised or guaranteed" Bill and Hillary his endorsement.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/02/BAVNVU2PJ.DTL&type=printable


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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 09:12:32 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 01:07:17 AM »
I have a friend from PA. He told me that Hillary will win the PA primary, but she has to catch up with super delegates in order to pull her rabbit out of that ice cube.

Oh well, As long as a Democrat wins this time around. I really don't care. Obama is fine with me.

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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 07:11:10 AM »
"Obama is fine with me"

Well Cynthia you're not alone.





Jane Fonda endorses Barack Obama
There goes his crossover vote

Wed April 2, 2008



Jane Fonda, the actress and ardent anti-Vietnam War advocate who visited North Vietnam during those
hostilities, has endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president.

There were no formal ceremonies for the endorsement. In fact, the Obama campaign may just be learning
about the actress's approval now as word spreads like lit gunpowder via the Internet.

Fonda was eating out last night and exited the restaurant, ignoring as celebrities often do the
assembled press contingent.

But a video camera was rolling as she approached the street and someone, perhaps just trying to
get her to turn around for a picture, shouted out at her back, "Who are you going to vote for?"

There was a moment of silence. Then, the actress did turn around toward the cameras, paused
and with a smile said simply, "Obama!" Then she got into a car and drove away.

Many people question the value of celebrity endorsements, whether they actually....

attract anything other than simply more publicity, not to mention votes. The imprimatur of Fonda,
who's been an antiwar activist for decades, certainly supports Obama's antiwar credentials.

Less examined is whether some celebrity endorsements may actually cost a candidate votes. This could be
one of those less desirable votes for part of the country, especially if Obama was hoping to attract some
crossover Republicans if he's the Democratic candidate come fall.

Obama, who was recently named the most liberal member of the Senate by the nonpartisan National
Journal
, has sought to portray himself as the earliest anti-Iraq war opponent and tagged his sole
remaining opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton, with voting to authorize the use of force in Iraq.

The problem for those of a certain generation that endured the Vietnam War and the sometimes violent
domestic conflict that accompanied it at home is that during Fonda's controversial wartime visit to
North Vietnam, she was photographed at a Communist anti-aircraft gun battery
.

According to the photo caption distributed at the time, she joined North Vietnamese soldiers there
in singing an antiwar song while preparing to shoot at attacking Americans.

This earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane (indeed, that's the TMZ headline this afternoon) and an
enduring image as a polarizing figure, especially regarding patriotism.

As it happens, the Republican presidential candidate this time is Sen. John McCain of Arizona,
who was one of those American fliers shot down over that same city by those same anti-aircraft
forces, tortured and spent nearly six years in a POW cell while Fonda returned home.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/jane-fonda-endo.html
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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 09:18:11 AM »
Jane Fonda endorses Barack Obama
There goes his crossover vote

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You truly are a dipstick. Christians

Most of Obama's followers were not even born when Fonda suggested that the US had no part in a Vietnamese civil war.

Which, they didn't.

By the way, McCain didn't win that one. Not even Rambo.
100 years in Iraq and bomb, bomb Iran, that's what McCain wants.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 09:23:47 AM »
XO I hope Obama makes Hanoi Jane a centerpiece of his campaign!

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Re: Bill Clinton goes on another tirade
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 03:03:25 PM »
>>100 years in Iraq [snip] that's what McCain wants.<<

Obama is going around repeating this lie. The MSM isn't calling him on it.

I'm shocked.