Night Shift Reading

[BT]

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/005501.html


Read all the comments, too.

[Religious Dick]

My takeaway is that science is finally validating a number of things which, until fairly recently in our history, were considered self-evident to any sentient being with a pair of functioning eyes.

Methinks the western world is about to relearn some old lessons in a very hard and painful way.

[kimba1]

yes,but it did not mention how greatly we can overcome a good deal of it.
intelligence isn`t just a matter of genetics.
the majority of my friends were poor students went to community college and after working for a few years finally made it to the top of thier respective areas.
something about the practical and somewhat competive enviroment of work for food does something to the brain to finally work fully.

[Plane]

That is a really good discussion , I am gonna mull it over and read it again later.


What would an ideal Evolutionary based philosophy look like?

Would adherants be so interested in improveing the gene pool that they would want competition to determine reproductive success?

The NBA may already be half way there.

Fighting dog breeders are there all the way.

[kimba1]

Would adherants be so interested in improveing the gene pool that they would want competition to determine reproductive success?

this topic no matter what is subjective .
improving require somebody`s idea what is a better .
and researcher may have a blind spot what is the best survivor.
the most reproductive people in the U.S. are unemployed ,unskilled ,uneducated segments of our society.
I very much doubt scientist will report such data

[_JS]

I don't see anything impressive.

Evolution is very misunderstood. It is not necessarily "progressive" as some pretend it must be. Nor does it displace God as others claim.

Evolution affects the brain - yes, of course. It does not necessitate Social Darwinism and you'd be hard pressed to find many scientists who agree with anything like RD's love of the Bell Curve.

[kimba1]

very true

[Plane]

I don't see anything impressive.

Evolution is very misunderstood. It is not necessarily "progressive" as some pretend it must be. Nor does it displace God as others claim.

Evolution affects the brain - yes, of course. It does not necessitate Social Darwinism and you'd be hard pressed to find many scientists who agree with anything like RD's love of the Bell Curve.

It becme a good stone for Hitler to grind his axe on.

And closer to home the Eugenic movement that inspired Hitler to copy an American idea.

[kimba1]

I always thought his eugenics plan was too subjective to work
I mean seriously half norwegian ,half german to make a ubermesh better than everbody else.
I think if the german army didn`t get hitler,than the general population would get him .
to make a race of people to be privileged to have the best of everything .
I`m pretty sure quite afew of the scientist did not make the grade.
I wonder if stephan hawkins would get a deferment

[Religious Dick]

Evolution affects the brain - yes, of course. It does not necessitate Social Darwinism and you'd be hard pressed to find many scientists who agree with anything like RD's love of the Bell Curve.

Really? One of the most respected researchers in the field, having performed the most comprehensive research to date, might take issue with that statement.

[Plane]

Reinventing the Sacred, legendary complexity pioneer Stuart Kauffman continues to challenge the view of most biologists that natural selection is the only source of order. However, Kauffman is more charitable than hundreds of other evolutionary scientists (non-Creationists) who contend that natural selection is politics, not science, and that we are in a quagmire because of staggering commerical investment in a Darwinian industry built on an inadequate theory.
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Fast forwarding a half billion years, Newman’s got a very interesting article in the March 2008 issue of Capitalism, Nature, Socialism, called "Evolution: The Public’s Problem and the Scientists’" in which he observes that:

"The nearly exclusive focus on genes to account for biological change at the levels of both individual development and large-scale evolution, like the cash nexus of market economies, collapses quality into quantity, life into symbol."

 Speaking of symbols, Ben Stein’s Expelled film people contacted me "to get involved" with the project after reading the Altenberg story. Curiously, they take a pro-war position, and I have not responded to them.

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Long hard to follow and rambleing article , with a few interesting tid bits.

How did "self Organisation " get started?