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Redistribution of Wealth
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:26:03 PM »
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need -- the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 12:56:59 PM »
ROFL

I love it!
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 04:54:15 PM »
ditto     :D
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 05:53:14 PM »
If you had written it, it was clever, but snide. Since you just ct and pasted it, it was more snide than clever, like the guy who wrote it was the waiter who did the work, and you were the deserving homeless guy, for example.

Obama proposed raising wealthy people's taxes in order to lower the middle class people's taxes. He has never proposed taxing anyone to pay the indolent, so this is not really a valid satire, just a snide one.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 06:05:17 PM »
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Obama proposed raising wealthy people's taxes in order to lower the middle class people's taxes. He has never proposed taxing anyone to pay the indolent, so this is not really a valid satire, just a snide one.

Obama also plans to tax the rich to pay for his health care plan.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 06:09:36 PM »

Obama also plans to tax the rich to pay for his health care plan.

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Good for him. The rich will get health care out of it just like everyone else.

Socialism is the way to go.

Republicans suck. Better to spend money on the health care of Americans than on useless endless wars fought on bogus pretensions.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 06:38:23 PM »
Obama also plans to tax the rich to pay for his health care plan.
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Good for him. The rich will get health care out of it just like everyone else.

Yea, how appropriate that Xo pay for Rush Limbaugh's, Karl Rove's, and Dick Cheney's health care.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 07:13:13 PM »



   
   

Obama also plans to tax the rich to pay for his health care plan.
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Good for him. The rich will get health care out of it just like everyone else.

Yea, how appropriate that Xo pay for Rush Limbaugh's, Karl Rove's, and Dick Cheney's health care.

   
I would think that just one of them would be sufficient to pay for mine.

Every time you buy anything at all, you are sharing the costs with others. Manufacturing just ONE simple gadget like a pen, or a notebook would cost a huge amount of money. But when many people buy the identical item, it is more affordable for all.

Being as Rush, Rove and Cheney are paying for my health care, why should I worry about me paying for theirs, any more than I care who I am collectively buying pens. notebook, or catfood with?

That is a very feeble argument, by the way.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 07:23:52 PM »
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Good for him. The rich will get health care out of it just like everyone else.

Not if they means test, like they will your ss payments.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 07:24:35 PM »
Being as Rush, Rove and Cheney are paying for my health care, why should I worry about me paying for theirs, any more than I care who I am collectively buying pens. notebook, or catfood with?


Hey, as long as your happy paying their healthcare, cool
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 07:34:47 PM »
I am not in favor of means tests for Social Security or Medicare. I have never said that I was.

The entire idea of insurance and of medicare is shared risk. I am fine with this.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 08:19:24 PM »
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I am not in favor of means tests for Social Security or Medicare. I have never said that I was.

Those with means don't need SS payments also. It should go to those less fortunate.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 08:22:58 PM »

Every time you buy anything at all, you are sharing the costs with others. Manufacturing just ONE simple gadget like a pen, or a notebook would cost a huge amount of money. But when many people buy the identical item, it is more affordable for all.

Being as Rush, Rove and Cheney are paying for my health care, why should I worry about me paying for theirs, any more than I care who I am collectively buying pens. notebook, or catfood with?

That is a very feeble argument, by the way.


Indeed. No one is arguing against shared costs. You've ignored the substantial difference between voluntary shared costs and forcing people to pay into a system regardless of whether they need to or want to. One might as well argue that I'm helping to pay for your mafia protection so why should I care if you help pay for mine. You've equated apples and oranges with basic argument that they're both fruit. So yes, your argument is indeed quite feeble.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 08:30:13 PM »
I am not in favor of means tests for Social Security or Medicare. I have never said that I was.

Those with means don't need SS payments also. It should go to those less fortunate.

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I disagree. Everyone who pays out, should receive what they were promised. If you feel sorry for the less fortunate, you are allowed to donate anything you wish to them. Perhaps the more fortunate will help in this. That is also okay by me.

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. You've ignored the substantial difference between voluntary shared costs and forcing people to pay into a system regardless of whether they need to or want to. One might as well argue that I'm helping to pay for your mafia protection so why should I care if you help pay for mine. You've equated apples and oranges with basic argument that they're both fruit. So yes, your argument is indeed quite feeble.

No, if you choose to live in this society, you play by the rules, or go elsewhere. You may have an inherent human right to prance around buck-naked, but you have chosen to live in a society where this is not allowed. The rules say you pay into Social Security and hide your tallywhacker from public view.

You can live in a number of places and avoid both social security payments and clothing, I do not deny this. But if you are going to live in the USA, you gotta follow the rules. It's all apples. There are no oranges.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 08:32:49 PM »

It's all apples. There are no oranges.


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