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[Plane]

than as unfeeling embryos .

Oh?

It would comfort me a bit to know that a fetus was not made to suffer , how do you know this?

[Knutey]

than as unfeeling embryos .

Oh?

It would comfort me a bit to know that a fetus was not made to suffer , how do you know this?

How do you know otherwise? Did you take a poll? I at least know for certain that adult humans strongly prefer not to die.And scientific evidence says that up to 90% feel pain at execution.
Special Report on Death - New Scientist
Oct 10, 2007 ... Inadequate anaesthesia means almost 90% of convicts could feel pain during execution and over 40% may be conscious, a new US study suggests ...
www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/death -

[BT]

Special Report on Death - New Scientist
Oct 10, 2007 ... Inadequate anaesthesia means almost 90% of convicts could feel pain during execution and over 40% may be conscious, a new US study suggests ...
www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/death -

How does that compare to the percentage of victims who feel pain?

[Plane]

Special Report on Death - New Scientist
Oct 10, 2007 ... Inadequate anaesthesia means almost 90% of convicts could feel pain during execution and over 40% may be conscious, a new US study suggests ...
www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/death -

How does that compare to the percentage of victims who feel pain?

How does it answer the question I asked?

If he can state with certainty that a Fetus feels no pain as it is dismembered or scalded to death , I would like to know how this was determined.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Who scalds foetuses to death?

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

[Plane]

Who scalds foetuses to death?

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

One of the methods is to inject a salt solution into the amniotic fluid, the fetus breathes this saline into its lungs and struggles in its death throws untill the salt in its system reaches toxic levels.


If you think the word "scald " is a poor discriptive for this tecnique , I am ready to entertain suggestions.

[Amianthus]

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

The brain and nervous system begins developing in week 3 and is pretty much complete by week 25. Week 25 is when conscious control of the brain over the body begins.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Scald refers to hot water, not salt.

Not sure if anything a zygote could do could be described as "struggling".

If a foetus felt no more pain than a trout or a perch you just hooked, or a roach you just squished, would that be acceptable?

[Plane]

Scald refers to hot water, not salt.

Not sure if anything a zygote could do could be described as "struggling".

If a foetus felt no more pain than a trout or a perch you just hooked, or a roach you just squished, would that be acceptable?

No that would not be acceptable at all.

Just a few years ago the State of Georgia made animal cruelty a felony , but there is no limit to the pain you can cause someone who is a few days shy of being officially human.

If I forced a salt solution into the lungs of a dog and was caught at it you might have to go to Atlanta to visit me.

[Knutey]

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

The brain and nervous system begins developing in week 3 and is pretty much complete by week 25. Week 25 is when conscious control of the brain over the body begins.

Wrong , DR AMI- Why dont you just stop giving out unsourced misinformation?

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/dec/fetus-feel-pain

[Xavier_Onassis]

You can goosh all the roaches you want, fling lobsters into boiling water, harpoon, hook, and suffocate fish and frogs and no one even winces. Not to mention what goes on with pigs, cattle, chicken and turkeys every day.

This cruelty issue is hardly any sort of objective one.

If I forced a salt solution into the lungs of a dog and was caught at it you might have to go to Atlanta to visit me.

If the dog was a foetal puppy, and you were a vet, then you would have a valid comparison here. And the State of Georgia would not do a thing, because that foetal puppy is not yet an animal.

Surely Georgia has prisons in other places than Atlanta.

[Plane]

............. because that foetal puppy is not yet an animal.

Oh?

What definition or criteria of "animal" does a foetal puppy not meet?

[Plane]

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

The brain and nervous system begins developing in week 3 and is pretty much complete by week 25. Week 25 is when conscious control of the brain over the body begins.

Wrong , DR AMI- Why dont you just stop giving out unsourced misinformation?

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/dec/fetus-feel-pain

The use of fetal anesthesia is justified during other surgeries, Rosen says, to block the production of stress hormones. In the case of abortion, he says, it is not necessary and puts the mother at increased risk of adverse reactions, and even death.

What a bunch of weasel words.

A feotous you want to keep may need anestsia to prevent stress , but one you want to get rid of is only reacting in reflex.

So what produces stress hormones if it isn't stress?

[Knutey]

The nervous system develops rather slowly. A zygote with no nerve calls could not feel any pain.

The brain and nervous system begins developing in week 3 and is pretty much complete by week 25. Week 25 is when conscious control of the brain over the body begins.

Wrong , DR AMI- Why dont you just stop giving out unsourced misinformation?

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/dec/fetus-feel-pain

The use of fetal anesthesia is justified during other surgeries, Rosen says, to block the production of stress hormones. In the case of abortion, he says, it is not necessary and puts the mother at increased risk of adverse reactions, and even death.

What a bunch of weasel words.

A feotous you want to keep may need anestsia to prevent stress , but one you want to get rid of is only reacting in reflex.

So what produces stress hormones if it isn't stress?

Geeesus - This place is full of RWRN'spracticing medicine without a licence

[Amianthus]

Wrong , DR AMI- Why dont you just stop giving out unsourced misinformation?

Why don't you just ask for the source?
http://health.allrefer.com/health/fetal-development-info.html