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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2015, 09:49:10 PM »
you know this is true!

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« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2015, 10:39:26 AM »
Did you notice that the ratbag right FAILED to pass their useless bill yesterday?

Dogs generally do not get abortions. I don't think there is a canine pro-choice movement. Planned Parenthood does not deal with dogs, foxes, wolves or coyotes .  This is a very stupid remark, and not even original.

The only reason they are flailing about over this is that depriving women of their rights does not cost anything. It is like their last War on Gay marriage, which they lost rather spectacularly. 

Again, women who go anywhere for abortions have the option  of donating fetal tissue or not donating it.

When they do so, lives are saved.

Would you prefer they just throw it away? Because that is the only alternative. This is an idiotic issue and the Republican'ts can only milk ot for so long, because logic is against them.
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« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2015, 10:46:54 AM »
News flash....it DID pass, as a majority voted for it     ::)    What it didn't pass was the pending Democrat filibuster
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2015, 11:12:56 AM »
Again, women who go anywhere for abortions have the option  of donating fetal tissue or not donating it.
When they do so, lives are saved. Would you prefer they just throw it away? Because that is the only alternative. This is an idiotic issue and the Republican'ts can only milk ot for so long, because logic is against them.

That insane logic would be like saying in Germany in 1943...."well just think of all the medical experiments we can do on the Jews and Gypsies before we kill them that will help "save lives"....after-all we are going to gas the Jews....so would you just prefer to "throw it away" or use these Jews so "lives are saved".  :o ::) :o
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2015, 11:17:56 AM »
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2015, 12:24:44 PM »
Another moronic argument.
Many animals actually EAT THEIR BABIES.
You ought to pass a law against that. You are powerless to end abortions, anyway. Women who have the money can go where they wish and abort at will. You are just torturing poor women, you ought to be able to see that. 


Justice is not about a bunch of angry old Bible-thumping farts telling women how somehow the government has the right to force them to give birth.
Justice is about women, who have the SAME RIGHTS as Bible-thumping old farts, to decide how they want to live their lives.


The IGNORANCE of you Bible thumpers is amazing.

And, by the way, what do you think that Planned Parenthood or any abortionists should do with fetal tissue?

There are only TWO (2) coices: throw it wawy or use to to save lives in transplants and research.
 
This vote is an exercise in idiocy. Obama will veto this idiotic bill, and everyone knows this. It is just a stupid game so that a variety of dolts running for the GOP nomination can attract the votes of the religiously obsessed. Nothing will come of it, it is like voting to end Obamacare 50 times.

It is what can only be called "Legislative masturbation". The only difference it that seems to be more addictive.
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2015, 03:46:29 PM »
There are only TWO (2) coices: throw it wawy or use to to save lives in transplants and research.

Yes the Germans should have maybe killed the Jews in a way that could have
facilitated using and/or selling the body parts like Planned Parenthood is doing!
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2015, 03:58:36 PM »
No, they could not have done this.

Transplant technology did not exist.

The fact is that (1) abortions are LEGAL and therefore they are GOING TO HAPPEN.

(2) Women VOLUNTEER to have abortions. Planned Parenthood does not kidnap them and abort anyone against her will

(3) the woman who has the abortion has the absolute right to decide what to do with the parts, tissues or whatever.

(4) she may choose to donate it to save others or she may refuse to do this.

None of this is up to you. Nor should it be.

This has ZERO to do with Nazis. Give it a rest.
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #98 on: August 04, 2015, 04:17:55 PM »
Then, by that rationalization, she can donate her dog's leg....or lungs...or kidneys, to some body bank where that might be able to save another dog.....right?  Just seeking clarity amongst this ocean of amorality
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #99 on: August 04, 2015, 04:20:29 PM »
None of this is up to you. Nor should it be. This has ZERO to do with Nazis.

This is even worse than the Nazis!
More innocent babies have been murdered at Planned Parenthood than Jews gassed by the Nazis.
Standing up for innocents is up to me.
You can't say "it isn't a human" and at the same time harvest human body parts from the un-born baby.

This is a disgrace and exposes what sham Planned Parenthood really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egGUEvY7CEg
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2015, 04:35:03 PM »
Apparently we now know why PP has tried so hard to keep further videos from surfacing.  The latest appears to demonstrate their desire to have whole bodies, not just parts, to use & sell
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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #101 on: August 04, 2015, 04:48:55 PM »
SIRS....this latest horrible sad video proves three Planned Parenthood Lies

Lie #1: They don't alter the process
It?s been said time and time again that Planned Parenthood never alters their process to procure fetal tissue. They emphasize this because it's against the law to alter an abortion procedure in the interest of the baby body parts aftermarket. But 18 seconds into the video there's this: "If we alter our process and we're able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, it's all just a matter of line items."  (18 seconds into the video)

Also: "We've had studies in which the company, or in the case of the investigator, has a Farrell Planned Parenthood Deviation specific need for a certain portion of the products of conception, and we bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that." (1:45 into the video)

And this: "Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they're collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens." (4:23 into the video)

Lie #2: They aren't making money from fetal tissue
Yes, they are. When Melissa Farrell referred to fetuses as "a matter of line items," she is talking about money, discussing how to charge to get the most out of each baby. Here are some other examples from this fifth video.

"My department contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here." Farrell Planned Parenthood Line Items (7:08 into the video)

"If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this, it's all just a matter of line items."  (7:58 into the video)

Lie #3: It's not a baby
While, in the last video, the doctor admitted that these are in fact babies, there are still those who would argue against it. In the final portion of the video, we have a sobering reminder that these are, in fact, babies. Even the use of the word "cadaver" implies that they know these were living human beings, although they are not treated with even a modicum of human dignity. When the video-grapher asks to see examples of the babies aborted that day, clinic workers laugh and tell him, "We had a really long day and they're all mixed up together in a bag."

She then goes on to pull a 20-week twin out of the freezer. A regular freezer, just like the one you probably have in your kitchen.

They put the baby through a pasta Planned Parenthood Baby Freezerstrainer, also just like the one you probably have in your kitchen. They look through baby parts in a pyrex baking dish, again, like the one you probably have in your kitchen. However, this dish contains tiny human body parts. It contains a human liver, thymus, kidneys and eyes. This dish contains perfectly formed arms and legs, fished out with tweezers to determine how much they can get for them.

It is hard to imagine what the pro-abortion movement will come up with next to defend the barbaric practices of Planned Parenthood. Their defenses have been destroyed. We can clearly see what is happening; we can hear it in the words of Planned Parenthood's own employees. The Center for Medical Progress, the group behind these undercover videos, says there are more videos to come. One can hardly comprehend how much worse it can get.

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #102 on: August 04, 2015, 05:21:58 PM »
I am ALL FOR any woman having an abortion at ANY TIME SHE CHOOSES.

Why? Because it is HER LIFE and HER BODY and she gets to decide, not some brainwashed religious nut who does not even know her.

Fetuses are not babies in my book. 

You can spew this medieval idiocy until the cows come home, it affects not not one whit.

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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2015, 06:22:16 PM »
I am ALL FOR any woman having an abortion at ANY TIME SHE CHOOSES.
Why? Because it is HER LIFE and HER BODY and she gets to decide

Oh really?
if she is miss independent...her life, her body, blah blah blah
why does she as soon as the rug-rat/tricycle motor/curtain climber is born run and file for child support?
"oh wait a minute....I want the man to pay for 18 years"
but i thought it was "her life"?....yeah sure
why does the man not have any rights in the decision if he is gonna have to pay for 18 years?


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Re: Disgraceful Planned Parenthood
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2015, 06:32:36 PM »
Get real.  If the guy wants a child, then he finds a woman who also wants to have a child. If they agree then it makes sense, but this is almost never the case.

It certainly is not the case in the case of rape.

Otherwise, he gets no say in the matter. Why should he?

All men and all women pretty much know where babies come from. Men can be 1000% confident that they will not be the ones getting pregnant.

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