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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2008, 09:07:35 PM »
The Mormons no longer believe in polygamy, the ones that do are separate breakaway sects. The complaint with that is that older men in their 40's and 50's are married to teenaged girls, often against the will of said girls. The Texas group then enrolled many of the women and children as single unmarried women and fatherless children. I think that is going a tad too far.

Ruby Ridge was a setup of a mildly weacky gun nut who lived far too far up in the hills to be a threat to anyone. It was a mistake.

The Koresh./Waco thing was alewo very poorly handled, and another mistake. Observe that there have been no recent Ruby Ridge and Waco type attacks.

I am all for letting the Amish manage on their own. Still, if their roofs collapse under too much ice and snow, then that would be a time to consider enforcing some codes.

In many places, you cannot build an unconventional eco-friendly home with straw bales, old tires, partially underground because of outmoded building codes. That needs to change as well.
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2008, 12:31:15 AM »
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...why should they be limited to one wife if their religion says otherwise?

Because custom, and the law in the US, says they can only have one. The same custom, which some are in a rush to enact into laws in the various states, that only people of the opposite sex may marry. The same custom, already law in most states, that local building codes have the force of law and must be adhered to.

What should we do, only enforce those laws that don't somehow affect someone's religious beliefs? Peyote, anyone?
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2008, 12:37:45 AM »
What should we do, only enforce those laws that don't somehow affect someone's religious beliefs? Peyote, anyone?

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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2008, 12:08:29 AM »

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Come on. That wasn't sarcastic criticism?

No that was sarcasm.


I bet you said that with a straight face too.


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Your reply to the story was basically, "yes it sounds bad, but..." And then you mentioned building codes and animal care laws, and said, "Reasonable people might agree that these are worthy ordinances." I'm not sure how your words do not carry the implication that the Kenneth City Council and its proposal have somehow been unfairly criticized.

Perhaps my opening sentence would provide a clue

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This is one of those filler stories. Local government run amuck. And they do get carried away sometimes, believe me I know.


Indeed. And the sentence that followed also provided a clue. "But consider this." As I said, your reply to the story was basically, "yes it sounds bad, but...".
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2008, 12:10:15 AM »
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bet you said that with a straight face too.

Yep. So where is the criticism?

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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2008, 12:18:49 AM »
In the sarcasm. Come on, BT, don't play stupid.
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2008, 12:25:43 AM »
Is sarcasm criticism?

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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2008, 12:49:31 AM »
Sigh. Yes, it can be. You're a big boy. Look it up.
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2008, 01:09:54 AM »
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Sigh. Yes, it can be. You're a big boy. Look it up.

Are you being sarcastic or are you criticizing me or both.

Because when i was being sarcastic, i don't recall saying you were dumb.

Perhaps when you are sarcastic you are criticizing and think everyone does it your way.


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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2008, 01:18:10 AM »
Or perhaps your sarcasm looks like criticism. Come on. You used sarcasm but somehow you were not criticizing what I said? I'd ask what your intended meaning was, but you wouldn't answer me. So I guess the true meaning of your sarcasm will remain a mystery.
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2008, 01:40:14 AM »
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You used sarcasm but somehow you were not criticizing what I said?

How could i criticize a position you did not take?

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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2008, 01:59:43 AM »
I don't recall saying that is what you criticized. The criticism would be for, as seems to be your opinion, the fact that I did not take a position. Sheesh.
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2008, 02:07:27 AM »
OMG. Headache!!!!!!!!!

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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2008, 10:21:50 AM »
"OMG. Headache!!!!!!!!!"

yes a very big headache!

"define is"...."no..define "define"

WTF-ingEver  ::)
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Re: It starts at home...
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2008, 10:47:48 AM »
"OMG. Headache!!!!!!!!!"

yes a very big headache!

"define is"...."no..define "define"

WTF-ingEver  ::)


Critcism! No, sarcasm! Is too! Is not! Whose on first?  ;D

Sorry, BT and UP, but really if you look at the last couple of pages of this thread it is one that simply needs to die.