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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: This needs to be done,end of discussion
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2012, 10:33:00 AM »
Something can indeed be formed of nothing.

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When you take a bucket of nothing and make something of it, I might believe you.

Until then, no.
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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2012, 07:15:15 PM »
I exist do I not?

My existance depends on the conglomeration of matter forged in anchient  stellar Nova and the infusion of energy from nuclear fusion from a stellar furnace located eight light minutes from my location.

What was all of this before it was gathered into stars?

And before that, iteration, ad infinitum?

The best guess at present is that creation started with the big bang, and that previous to that singualr event nothing at all is known.

The matter I am composed of and all that I am aware of sprang forth from something, fifteen billion years ago?

I think it is a good guess and I accept it in leu of better guesses that may be coming.

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Re: This needs to be done,end of discussion
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2012, 08:08:04 PM »
According to the formula E=mc2, everything that exists, exists in the form of matter or energy.

You are mostly matter, like most people. Self-awareness may be energy or the effect of energy on matter.

While it is true that we have n knowledge of what existed before the Big Bang, we have reason to speculate that it was a mixture of matter and energy, perhaps squeezed together very tightly and densely in a way that nothing currently can exist.
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Re: This needs to be done,end of discussion
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2012, 10:02:26 PM »
I wonder in a hundred years will all we know be fact or primative alchemy?


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Re: This needs to be done,end of discussion
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2012, 12:19:00 AM »
I wonder in a hundred years will all we know be fact or primative alchemy?

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Compare what we know today with what people knew at any date between 1912 and 1962. Certainly not everything will be considered as quaint and backward.

Alchemy, no. We have a pretty good hand on chemistry.
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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
we did lose pluto a few years ago . with all this reasearch on alternative power source may redefine cetain laws of physics.

ex. magnet driven generators.

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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2012, 02:10:51 PM »
Generators, so far as I know, have ALWAYS contained magnets, either permanent ones or electromagnets. Is this some sort of generator you are talking about?

The thing about Pluto was that more was learned, not just about Pluto, but about other smaller orbiting planetoids, and it turns out that at least one of them was bigger than Pluto. Basically they simply redefined a planet as being something larger than Pluto and other planetoids. Pluto has not changed at all, we have just learned more about it.
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