DebateGate
General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BT on November 07, 2012, 01:27:18 AM
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Pending finals in Ohio, Florida and Virginia. Possibly Wisconsin.
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Indeed
Just telling my wife how we're living in such a momentous time in this country's history. Saw the 1st black president elected by the country. And witnessed that president and his party utterly destroy it, before our very eyes. But hey, we have Obamacare.
Congrats President Obama
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He didn't destroy anything. That's complete nonsense. Every serious problem we have was there when Obama took over. And every one of those problems was just below the surface during Bush's time at the helm. These things take a long time to manifest and they'll take a long time to fix. None of them is any one persons fault.
You know, some people just can't live with difficulty. They think it should be all roses. We've been lucky as hell in this country for the past 70 years. Count your blessings, suck it up, and move through these less lucky times with courage, and wisdom, and a lot of common sense. The last thing we need now is a bunch of whiny little babies.
BSB
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Sure he has. My wife and I are witness to it. He's successfully "fundamentally" changing how we're doing things, and giving the Federal Government a bigger shoe to stomp on us with. But its really not me or my wife I'm sad about. I feel real sorry for my nieces, nephews, and their kids, with the debt they'll be handed, thanks to President Trillion Dollar Deficit
Hello Greece
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Bwah ha ha ha ha!
Romney was a bad choice, Ryan an even worse one.
Connie Mack was clobbered, Bill Nelson WON, our President won Florida.
Mitch McConnell can go stuff it. We are going to have decent health care for all Americans and no asshole vulture capitalist is going to stop us.
Let them try running Ryan in 2016. Yeah, sure that'll work.
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Yeah, there was no debt before Obama.
Sirs, you're a complete waste of time and you always have been.
BSB
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Yeah, there was no debt before Obama.
And who claimed that?? Yea, that's what I thought....the xo school of "debate".....throw garbage, then run
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I don't run, I just refuse to debate you, because you have no clue as to what actual debate is. You are on some sort of dumb ratbag rightwing ego trip.
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Yea, you do run, yea you do throw garbage vs debate, because, yea, you apparently can't debate me. Your latest response being such a perfect example. Your just fodder for entertainment purposes at this point
And the sad part is you CHOSE to be that way. You could actually make an effort, in which you did recently....1time. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw the effort. But then, just like clockwork, back to this garbage
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Again. you don't have a clue what debate is.
No game is worth the bother unless both sides agree on the rules,and you continue to be clueless.
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Again. you don't have a clue what debate is.
Naaa, that be the one continuing to hurl slurs, snarks, and insults vs actually answering direct & indirect questions.
That's a clue, as to what debate is
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Not at all. Just read your "debate" with bear.
You are not debating, all you do is spew nonsense and claim that no one understands the rules of debate but you.
Every discussion with you ends in no one reaching any conclusion or agreement on anything.
Again, you are a waste of time, and there are good reasons for this.
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Not at all. Just read your "debate" with bear.
Yea, the one where a serious issue was posed, and instead of discussing or debating, H had to go off on some directionless sail. But at least he's trying to make a effort, and frequently succeeds. You just throw mud....and skip trying to debate all together
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You are correct that I refuse to debate you.
This is because you are a prick,and are not actually capable of any rational debate.
If you were capable of rational thought, you would recognize this.
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You are correct that I refuse to debate you.
Because you can't. You appear unable to deal with folks who can factually demonstrate how wrong you are so often, in your wreckless accusations. So instead, you go off on these leftist lunatic rants and 3rd grade namecalling. The more often the person shows you to be wrong, the more vitriolic your namecalling gets
If you had an objective bone in your body, you'd grasp that.....and the fact others DO debate and discuss issues with me. Those that also have a rational mind apparently.
Hopefully you'll adopt one, some day
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All discussions with you end up just petering out in meaningless nonsense. Anyone who reads both sides of any of these can easily see this.
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Shows you just how wrong you are........again. Imagine that
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Sirs, get lost. No one wants you around. The only people who stood up for you never post in here. You're a liar, and an ignoramus. You wreck the possibility of any decent conversation in here and these are times in which conversation about where we're headed is important. So, get lost. I see no reason to equivocate about your lack of worth anymore.
BSB
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basically all they do is call you names SIRS
thats a good sign you're winning
wear it like a badge of honor
keep up the good work
This is from one single thread just today!
"You're an ignoramus"
"whiny little babies"
"you're a complete waste of time"
"You are on some sort of dumb ratbag"
"you are a prick"
"You're a liar, and an ignoramus"
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I know Cu4...thanks for the support. Miss Kim nailed it on the head earlier. Notice the ones who are crying and ranting the loudest are our 2 coolaide drinking lunatic liberals. Can't be bothered to debate, just throw garbage and run, and call it "debate". Obviously they're too smart to dabble in issues they don't find appealing or worthy of their time
Notice also no examples of supposed lying, just endless immature claims of such. I can't count haw many times the claim is made, yet never either backing it up, or demonstraing by example how I should debate. No, the example they provide is a perfect example of how not to debate. And for that, we are thankful, since for those who do visit, be it regulars or those just visiting, they can see examples of those who can vs those who can't
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sirs does not lie so much as parrot right wing talk radio, with all its stupid allegations. One has to be minimally familiar with reality to lie. Sirs is unaware of reality. The constant carping about how unfair the media is has become both tedious and absurd. Why bother to debate that, anyway?
He was already blathering about a 300 vote Romney landside, and look what happened. And then he starts harping on one New Black Panther, allegedly in front of a polling place thousands of miles from him and claiming that somehow President Obama had this plan to intimidate voters with combat boots and a billy club.
The"lunatic liberals" won this election, and Romney will never be president. The Oligarchs and their lumpenproletarian serfs have again failed to take over my country
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...and notice again...no examples of lying, no example of how one should debate, no ability to refute the MSM bias, and no ability to refute either the Blank Panthers story, or the more outrageous claim that I said, or even implied Obama was behind it......Xo sop....throw garbage, then run
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The"lunatic liberals" won this election, and Romney will never be president. The Oligarchs and their lumpenproletarian serfs have again failed to take over my country
And so sad for this and generations to come, that the lunatic left, DID
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...the lunatic left...
Do you have references of some sort to back up that claim? I don't see any evidence that XO, or BSB, or Obama, or the left in general, is mentally unbalanced. Perhaps you can provide psychiatric reports from someone with a proven background in psychiatry, or the mental health field, who has interviewed them and can provide statements as to their mental health. Otherwise I'm afraid you've lost all credibility with that line of attack.
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...the lunatic left...
Do you have references of some sort to back up that claim?
Yea, I'd point to the rantings of messers Xo & Bsb. You could add to that the rantings of Pelosi, Chris Mathews (well nearly the entire set of MSNBHeeHaa network hosts. And btw, lunatic is not being used as a medical term, its merely being used as a descriptive term, as in an opinion, similar to the namecalling that you, Xo, and Bsb have tried endlessly throwing at me. Then again, you knew that, but want to play some game here, instead of debate serious issues like......an election judge wearing an Obama hat at a voting location......or CBS 60 minutes, sitting on a piece of video of an interview with Obama, the day after the 911 attack, NOT referencing that the Benghazi attack was that of terrorism, despite being asked point blank if it were, as he claimed he did in the debate, and bufffered by the moderator.
Naaa...let's talk focus on some irrelevant semantic game. Sorry, you're going to have to play with yourself, on that one
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This is from one single thread just today!
"You're an ignoramus"
"whiny little babies"
"you're a complete waste of time"
"You are on some sort of dumb ratbag"
"you are a prick"
"You're a liar, and an ignoramus"
That's pretty disgusting. Maybe they feel emboldened right now because there happens to be more people who want free stuff than want to work and their guy was reelected. But I'm not thrilled about this name calling or the direction that this forum is headed.
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When you want to debate, debate.
When you want to assume you know what my thoughts are on any subject, you're on your own.
And when you want to do the very same things you are accusing XO and BSB of doing, it doesn't do any good to cry when you get called on it.
You may now resume your regularly scheduled whining.
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News Flash:
There is no they.
There is us.
Anyone having a problem with that knows where the door is.
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When you want to debate, debate.
Been trying to
When you want to assume you know what my thoughts are on any subject, you're on your own.
Minus of course that I didn't do that....that was YOUR ERROR....that still doesn't restrict yourself from either clarifying what you thought I thought, or simply adding to the debate. YOUR call
And when you want to do the very same things you are accusing XO and BSB of doing, it doesn't do any good to cry when you get called on it.
THAT WAS YOUR GAME. You'll have to keep playing with yourself, if that's what you'd rather do, than debate
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Let them try running Ryan in 2016. Yeah, sure that'll work.
And 2016 Democrat nominee Joe Biden will?
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Rump Rider "there happens to be more people who want free stuff than want to work "
You can't say anything any dumber than that.
BSB
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Fuck off, dumb shit.
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BSB = Big Stupid Bitch
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Rump Rider "Fuck off, dumb shit"
I stand corrected. This is even dumber.
BSB
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"there happens to be more people who want free stuff than want to work "
You can't say anything any dumber than that.
BSB
Biden has a whole resume' to work with
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BackSide Boy: "I stand corrected. This is even dumber."
The only one dumber than you is XO. My freeloader comment must have struck a nerve. Get a job, asshole.
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There's nothing more pathetic than people who are stuck in the past. Like those who booed Dylan off the stage when he came out with an electric guitar. They were just fighting time. You can't stop change. This was the Republicans last hurrah and they lost. It's over. The Latinos who are in this country work their asses off. They're good, decent, people. They're the future. I've helped support a Latino family for the past 10 years. The father has become a citizen. Two of his children have completed college. His wife has just now brought the last child to America and she will complete her senior year in high school and go on to college. It was my investment in the future of this country. Conversely, anything I can do to eradicate the Miss Sirs, Rump Riders, and CU4Assholes, of this country I will.
BSB
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Look, BackSide Boy, I know you are a nut and that you were investigated by the authorities for harrassing Richpo offline. This is all public knowledge so this is nothing new and I am not disclosing anything. You have been banned here more times than anybody and have created multiple new handles. You need psychiatric help and I have basically ignored your posts because of your history.
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Richpo was a major asshole. But no one could "harass him off line".
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You have over 16000 posts here so I'm sure you remember that BSB got ahold of Richpo's personal information and harrassed/stalked him and the police got involved. He was also banned for calling Kramer the N word and calling Mickey Tee a kike. This is not a rational individual and I probably will go back to ignoring him.
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If the police forced Richpo to leave, it was something he had coming. Kramer was another total asshole.
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It's Rumpty the Rump Rider.
BSB
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Sure he has. My wife and I are witness to it. He's successfully "fundamentally" changing how we're doing things, and giving the Federal Government a bigger shoe to stomp on us with. But its really not me or my wife I'm sad about. I feel real sorry for my nieces, nephews, and their kids, with the debt they'll be handed, thanks to President Trillion Dollar Deficit
Hello Greece
One thing this election has made crystal clear is that we are becoming a society of dependence, rejecting the traditional American dream and drive for success in favor of collecting disability, welfare, and other government provided benefits. Democrats have been capitalizing on this shift while Republicans take on the impossible task of attempting to explain to the dependents that all of the hand outs are unsustainable and harmful. Unfortunately, like trying to take away candy from a spoiled child through reason, our efforts have been unsuccessful.
To see where the dependence culture leads, Republicans only have to point to the tiny peninsula in the Mediterranean causing the entire world daily headaches, Greece. This has often been pointed at as the consequence of our current lack of financial responsibility and growth of entitlements, but the primary lesson to take away from Greece today is not economic; it’s cultural.
Last night, the Greek parliament passed through necessary austerity measures amid a new wave of violent protests. The latest austerity package does not appear controversial. As the Financial Times summarized, it consisted of cuts in pensions and government salaries, higher taxes on gas and cigarettes, increased health care costs, and an increase in the retirement age from 65 to 67. Outrage and riots from these modest reductions have been completely out of proportion and can only be explained by the deep-seated entitlement mentality
This is where we are heading in the long term and what Americans voted for Tuesday night: a people so inclined to being handed everything there’s no rationality or measured response when something gets taken away. Luckily, we are not yet Greece and still have time to reverse the course, avert the fiscal cliff, and buck the entitlement culture.
It’s not an easy task, but not impossible if Republicans stay encouraged and keep fighting (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mallorycarr/2012/11/08/on_the_road_to_greece)
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sbr110812dAPR20121107104556.jpg)
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(http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/md6fic-b781023860z.120121108080223000gho1b41ui.1.jpg)
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It’s not an easy task, but not impossible if Republicans stay encouraged and keep fighting
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They are becoming EXTINCT. GOP domination is about as improbable as the Earth being taken over by the Inaccessible Flightless Rail.
http://10000birds.com/inaccessible-island-rail-atlantisia-rogersi.htm (http://10000birds.com/inaccessible-island-rail-atlantisia-rogersi.htm)
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Conversely, anything I can do to eradicate the Miss Sirs, Rump Riders,
and CU4Assholes, of this country I will. BSB
I am unclear these days whether BT allows direct threats like you
have just made to fellow members of 3DHS. But if he does now even
allow theats.....your new threat to me and others is laughable.
But anytime you are in the Dallas area I will be more than happy
to meet you in person, take you for a nice lunch on a patio and experience
your "tough talk" in person. I think it would be quite entertaining!
I've always enjoyed dealing with bullies....it's fun.
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BT has nothing to do with the pissing matches the members of this forum seem to love getting into between themselves.
And as for alledged threat mentioned, I didn't read it as one and i doubt it is credible.
You solution of a face to face meeting to discuss any disagreements sounds like a good one.
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And as for alledged threat mentioned, I didn't read it as one
I certainly dont think I would enjoy being "eradicated".....would you?
But you are probably right, I doubt he could tear his way out of a paper sack.
There are some psychos out there....
(http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/loughner1.jpg?w=260)
but still a big ole salty maragrita & some nachos on a patio with BlowHardBudda might be fun!
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I didn't take it as a direct bodily threat, more like eradicating a political philosophy. See dixiecrats.
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I didn't take it as a direct bodily threat, more like eradicating a political philosophy.
But he said eradicating us....not our views.
I can't really comprehend his hate.
I don't want to "eradicate" any American or their views.
I just dont want the moochers stealing from me.
or the control freaks telling me what washing machine, car, light bulb, ect I can buy.
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I guess one way to determine whether a threat was issued would be to determine whether it scared you shitless.
Did it?
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I am dissapointed.
I seldom see any sign of President Barak Obama having competance or understanding or anything other than getting elected.
New records were set in spending , and we are not a penny the wiser.
Why does demogogery work so well?
And WHY OH LORD, was there a very damaging storm on schedule to make the President look presidential and good weather almost nationwide on election day?
It is almost as if God decided that we didn't deserve good leadership.
Eh, why did I say "almost"?
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Do you actually think God determines elections?
If you do, then we have no free will, do we?
Do you think Hitler, Pol Pol, Stalin and Mao were all part of God's intentions?
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Do you actually think God determines elections?
If you do, then we have no free will, do we?
Do you think Hitler, Pol Pol, Stalin and Mao were all part of God's intentions?
I don't really know.
I think it is possible.
Because I do not know Gods ultimate aims.
Evil leadership seems to spring up on a regular basis and I always suppose it to be an artifact of human free will.
I do not expect us to be immune to evil leadership even though we consult the wisdom of the entire people.
Does God have a deeper purpose that I am not seeing ?
That is always possible.
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If God allowed Obama to be reelected, then he also had a hand in putting Pol Pot and Hitler in power.
Either God decides, or people do. Either we have free will or we do not. You can't have it both ways.
I suggest that God cannot know the future and therefore has no actual aims. Perhaps he has goals like we do.
The apparent necessity for God to wipe out all but a few people in the Flood suggests that God did not get it right the first time.
I don't believe there was a Flood as described, but if God is perfect, he can have no "oops" moments.
If God knows the future, then we are simply doomed to do whatever God knows we will do. We have no free will.
There is uncertainty at the particle level in physics. Uncertainly and the lack of total probability predictions suggests that the future is not now and never will be predictable or knowable.
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That is a very doctrinare point of view.
Lets imagine an ordinary huiman being and this persons child.
The child must be either unguided or the slave of the parent?
The Heisenburg insight on uncertainty is not only that the uncertainty is unavoidable , but also that it can be precicely quantified.
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New records were set in spending , and we are not a penny the wiser.
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