More Indications of Palin "Boat Anchorism"

[Brassmask]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/05/vp_debate_pushed_undecided_voters_to_obama.html

VP Debate Pushed Undecided Voters to Obama
An Ipsos/McClatchy poll found that Gov. Sarah Palin's performance in last week's vice presidential debate actually hurt her running mate, Sen. John McCain, among undecided voters.

Before the debate, undecided voters were leaning 56% to 44% for McCain. The day after the debate, the numbers tilted 52% to 48% for Sen. Barack Obama.

Said pollster Clifford Young: "It's suggesting an overall tendency of undecideds toward Obama, so it is significant. We're catching an underlying trend that's going on."

The poll also found that Sen. Joe Biden won the debate, 54% to 46%.

[BT]

Meanwhile the entire Obama campaign is centered on CHANGE

And this is what the respondents thought about that:

But Palin did well when people were asked who would do a better job bringing change to Washington. Palin, they found, 58 percent to 42 percent. And roughly two-thirds said they like her, and some 53 percent found her believable.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53475.html

[BT]

Let's review:

Palin is a better debater and she is more likely to bring about CHANGE.

Oh and she shows the voters more respect by speaking to them at a higher grade level.

[Brassmask]

Let's review:

Palin is a better debater and she is more likely to bring about CHANGE.

Oh and she shows the voters more respect by speaking to them at a higher grade level.

Tragic laughable, BT.

[BT]

Sad that your guy comes in second best to the second seat.

[Brassmask]

It must stick in your craw to have to shift to trying to win, not by being better or having you sides ideas accepted as preferable to your opponents' but to have to resort to simply trying to win by tearing down a great and having less voters like Obama (that great man) than those who like McCain.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Palin is NOT more likely to bring about change. She is not running for a position where she can change one damn thing. The VP has no power to change anything. No vice president has ever brought more change than the president on their ticket unless the president has died in office. If that is what the people in this silly poll say, then, the people, as one of Charles Dickens' characters said, is an ass.

I cannot think of one VP who brought about more change than the president he replaced than maybe  LBJ, and most of the change came after he was elected in his own right.

This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard you say. Palin is just a stunt. She has not the wisdom or the power to change much more than her clothes.

In Alaska, perhaps she would have made a difference. She should have stayed there,

[Plane]

Palin is NOT more likely to bring about change. She is not running for a position where she can change one damn thing. The VP has no power to change anything. No vice president has ever brought more change than the president on their ticket unless the president has died in office. If that is what the people in this silly poll say, then, the people, as one of Charles Dickens' characters said, is an ass.

I cannot think of one VP who brought about more change than the president he replaced than maybe  LBJ, and most of the change came after he was elected in his own right.

This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard you say. Palin is just a stunt. She has not the wisdom or the power to change much more than her clothes.

In Alaska, perhaps she would have made a difference. She should have stayed there,

Theodore Roosevelt , another moose shooter.

Palin is hopeing to be a part of the team , someone with the ear of the president ,able to advise .

LBJ didn't really get along well with JFK even so he carried on in the same direction mostly.

[Knutey]

>Theodore Roosevelt , another moose shooter.<

You forgot Big Dickless Cheney, the old faceshooter.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I agree, TR was a VP who actually did change the country. But NOT until McKinley was firmly planted.

For Palin to have any real power, McCain must die. Otherwise she is an ornament or some sort of pet.


Cheney's role is unclear at the moment. He had way too much influence at the beginning, but it seems that lately, he is being studiously ignored by Juniorbush and the rest of his advisers. Cheney is clearly insane. I suspect it is the result of the powerful drugs he is taking for his heart problems that have made him thus.

[Plane]

I agree, TR was a VP who actually did change the country. But NOT until McKinley was firmly planted.

For Palin to have any real power, McCain must die. Otherwise she is an ornament or some sort of pet.


Cheney's role is unclear at the moment. He had way too much influence at the beginning, but it seems that lately, he is being studiously ignored by Juniorbush and the rest of his advisers. Cheney is clearly insane. I suspect it is the result of the powerful drugs he is taking for his heart problems that have made him thus.

Gore then , a Veep can be invested with authority , deligated from the president.

It could be a palidins position.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Gore then , a Veep can be invested with authority , deligated from the president.

It could be a palidins position.

==================================
I doubt this. Did Gore do anything that Clinton opposed in any way?

The president can only say that he will seek toinfluence the passage of laws that the VP favors, or that he will declare edicts that the VP favors.

Until McCain is firmly planted in Arlington, or wherever, Palin can't and won't change doodly squat.

[Plane]

Gore then , a Veep can be invested with authority , deligated from the president.

It could be a palidins position.

==================================
I doubt this. Did Gore do anything that Clinton opposed in any way?

The president can only say that he will seek toinfluence the passage of laws that the VP favors, or that he will declare edicts that the VP favors.

Until McCain is firmly planted in Arlington, or wherever, Palin can't and won't change doodly squat.

Nope , I see it as optional for the President to empower a Veep , so working contrary to the President isn't likely.

But speaking to and adviseing a president is pretty good power , as Sara pointed out on an issue on which they differ , she hopes to talk him into her POV.

[BT]

For Palin to have any real power, McCain must die. Otherwise she is an ornament or some sort of pet.

Isn't that the general theme of the Obama campaign, that McCain will die and office and look how inexperienced Palin is?

And then people start comparing Palin to Obama, and they think she is more likely to change things, that she is a better debater, that she is more likable.

You guys set the terms of the engagement with your boat anchor crap.


And Brass please don't you dare accuse me of being the one going negative when the applause had barely died down at the convention before your fellow travelers at Kos wer accusing Palin of claiming Trig as her own when it was really Bristol's baby.

It was your people who insisted Palin was irresponsible for not aborting.

It was your people who tried to paint her as dumb as dirt.

And that hasn't worked out so well for you.

Obama is a blank screen on which the people project their views.

How convenient.

[BT]

Palin is NOT more likely to bring about change.

Take that up with Brass. He is the one who brought the poll to our attention.